THE HIDDEN MAN. . . IN PLAIN SIGHT

    MOST of us are wise enough to know, that THAT WHICH WE SEE, is not always what is, right?

    Meaning that we, Mr. and Mrs. Citizen, very seldom are in the know, about who actually wields the over all power, in any nation or on earth, as a whole!

     In the Book of Daniel, which is a must, as an "Overlay" for the Book of Revelation, and that both books together forms the information and the picture, we need in order to comprehend the "Time of the End," which is not the same as the End of time!

      The Prophecy given in this post, is a key to Revelation, which to many is a horrific and hard to digest book, because many never use Daniel's reference points. That makes it almost as finding a a circle's beginning!

     BEGIN @ THE BASICS: DICTIONARY of PROPHETIC TERMS.

     White Linen = Righteousness [Rev.19:8]
     Trumpet, Winds = War/strife [Jer.49:36]
     Prostitution=  Idolatry [Lev.17:7; James 4:4; Hos. 2:1]
     Water, Sea = Nations- peoples [Rev.17:5]
     Woman = Church [Eph.5:22024; 2Cor.11:2; Jer.2:23; Jn.3:29, Rev12:1,2: 17:1-6]
     Zion= God's People [Isa. 3:16. ]
     Beast (s) = human kingdoms [Dan. 7:17]
     Horn (s) = power- kings/kingdoms [[Dan.8:21]
     Rock = Jesus [1Cor 10:4; 3:10-14. Gen. 49:24. . Deut. 32:4. Isa. 28:16; 26:41]
     Sword= war [Jer 49:39] Can also be God's Word, cutting both ways.[Ehp. 6:17]

 Daniel 7:1. "In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters."

    This time is nearing the end of the Babylonian empire.No, not the king's dream but of Daniel's.

 Daniel 7:2-3. "Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another."

     Remember beasts are only human powers expressed as empires or kingdoms., thus we have four such powers coming to the picture, each different from the other, but four winds means each will conquer, using war.

Revelation 17:15. "And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues"

 Jeremiah 49:36. "And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come."

 Jeremiah 49:37. "For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the LORD; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:"

      The Jeremiah verses are classical Hebrew Parallelism, first explained one way and then in an other way.

Daniel 7:17. "These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth."

     Sorry, but this doesn't say four huge computers in Brussels, Belgium. Only human kings/powers.

 Daniel 7:23. "Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces."

     It seems that this fourth power is to be the most powerful of all.

     THE FIRST OF THE GREAT BEASTS, WINGED LION- BABYLON. 605-539 B.C.
       Dan.2 the Head of Gold of the "Metal Dream Man" {Babylon rich in gold]

 Daniel 7:4. "The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it."

     This was a Kingdom that exalted the human above the Divine, therefore this being the ultimate apostasy, placing man, in the position that God must occupy! We shall see this played out again, in the times of the end.
     Remember BAB means Gate/Door, and EL means God, thus the door to God. But their god was/is not God . It also stands for confusion, as to babble. An other way to God other than the prescribed way of the Bible!

Symbolism: Jeremiah 4:7. "The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way; he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate; and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant."

     Babylon did lay waste to Judah & Dan, under king Nebuchadnezzar.  The "Ishtar"gate, both sections showing a rearing, winged lion are in a Museum, on display. from the city Babylon.

       THE SECOND BEAST-  A BEAR THE MEDO-PERSIA 539-331 B.C.
         Dan2's Arms/Chest of Silver of the metal man. Mead's 1st  to use of silver coins

Daniel 7:5. "And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh"

   "...raised up titelf on one side.." The coalition of the Meeds and the Persia, it was Persia that were the stronger, they had taken Lydia [Turkey] Egypts and the Holy Lands as the three ribs. Devour it did the previous empire and nations.

THE THIRD BEAST, THE 5 WINGED/4 HEADED LEOPARD- GREECE 331-168 B.C.
      The Belly/thighs of Brass Greeks, 1st to use brass/bronze led by A. the Great.

  Daniel 7:6. "After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it."

     "...four wings.." because of its very fast conquests. "..four heads..." After A. the Great died his 12 generals fought, and four won and split the kingdom. They were CASSANDER-- LYSIMICHUS-- PTOLEMY-- [of Cleopatra fame] SELEUCHUS.

      We now have covered a total of six (6) heads, right?

THE FOURTH BEAST, IRON TEETH, TERRIBLE PAGAN ROME 168BC.- 476A.D.
NOTE:  This was NOT named by Daniel as Rome had both the might and the organization to destroy this word.


Daniel 7:7. "After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns."

      "..it was diverse.." different from all the other kingdoms/beasts. plus it "...had ten horns..." meaning it either controlled or had great influence upon ten other kings.
     There's no mention of many heads, but only one, so now our total of heads stands at seven (7). Now the beast of Rev.13 also has these same head and horns, plus all the other attributes as well.

Daniel 7:24. "And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings."

     :...ten kings shall arise..." must mean they shall come up latter that this kingdom, but he shall be far different from the first, and he shall subdue three of the ten. BUT,,"..another shall arise after them..." 
     Them  who? 
     The  Ten kings of whom three shall defeated, so there's another beast/kingdom that shall arise after the ten, kings,  "who"-
"HE" shall lead to destroy the three kings. "HE" shall be diverse from the rest!

     Can you see that this 4th beast, is divided into ten, yet they remain basically the same beast?  Yet from out of all these rises still another who adds a far different flavor. Thus Rome shall be changed into a different beast/kingdom/power system.

Now how long will this system remain in power and thus rule?

THE 2ND HALF OF THE 4TH BEAST BEGAN 476AD. AND TOOK FULL CONTROL IN 538A.D.  and shall remain in power until the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST JESUS!

Daniel 7:22. "Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom"

    The Dan. 2:41-42 this power will be further split into ten toes that are as part clay and part iron,that will not adhere one to another, even though they are inter-married.

    So, when does the Bible say judgment shall be given to the saints of the Most High, meaning God?

.Revelation 22:12."And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."

      This is Christ' s second coming, and Judgments have been rendered, because His reward, are those who have accepted His gift and of Salvation, and him as their personal Savior!

THUS WITH THE IRON DREAM MAN OF DAN.2 WE HAVE:

 Head of Gold being the Babylon Lion
Chest and both arms of Silver, the Medo-Persia Bear
Brass Belly & thighs of the Greek Kingdom of 4 winged,4 headed Leopard
Iron Toothed beast, of Pagan Rome, that morphed into Religious Rome, who became Present Rome which will remain until the Ancient of Days returns.



 2 Thessalonians 1:8. "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"

      Please know, that those who reject Jesus or the Father, they themselves shall be rejected! Because of His gift of free-will, He will not ever force Himself upon anyone! Satan on the other hand will every thing but love and truth, which are God's only weapons!

Daniel 7:19. "Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

     This was the Iron Beast of Pagan Rome.


Daniel 7:23. "Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces."

 This is the second phase, if you will, of the 4th Beast, Rome's religious phase, earth most popular organization claiming 1 Billion followers on earth! and It has ALREADY carved up this earth into ten areas, matching the ten toes, of Dan.2:41


Daniel 7:19. "Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;"

    "...his nails of brass..." Please note this fact, brass and bronze were first developed in Greece, in Macedonia in fact, but Rome basically incorporated Greece as well as her culture, as she did so with all her conquered peoples. But they fully absorbed the Greek Culture and Philosophy, as well as much of her religions.
      Of she incorporated much of the religions of the peoples taken, this is the VERY reason why the Beast' s is described as "Like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and a mouth of a lion, and the dragon gave him  his power and his seat." Rev.13:2.
    Because Pagan Rome assimilated many of the religious points of Babylon of Greece, of Syria as well as Egypt! You need only to look at the huge Stylus, in the center of earth's largest Solar wheel, St. Peter's Square!


Daniel 7:23. "Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces."


 Daniel 2:44. "And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."


      ONLY GOD' s Kingdom shall stand forever, agree? Do you see the perfect parallel between Dan 2 & & chapters?

    Now did the ORIGINAL ROME, the Pagan Rome, take over the whole earth, Yes or No?
Has any nation ever ruled all of earth?  NO!  Please remember the prophecy does not say Rome ends, but that it shall be divided into 10 kingdoms, and after that one shall "Take Over" and we find this:


Revelation 13:3. "...... and all the world wondered after the beast."

    So we have the 10 kingdoms up to 476AD, and then the final beast, the one that's different from all others, as the "Little Horn", shall rule until Jesus Returns

     Still and you can find this on the Vatican's web site, about the ten divisions of earth, as well as the 10 divisions of North America, under the International Sunday Law, when none save those who have the Mark of the Beast, can buy or sell.

Revelation 13:15-17. "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.  And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:  And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

 Daniel 7:8."I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things"

     Here we find Daniel looking ahead into time's corridor, and he sees the ten horns, the ten kingdoms plus  a " 'little horn' that had the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking great things." Actually in the Hebrew it say "From littleness it grew bigger and bigger". AMONG THEM!
 
     NOTE: THIS LITTLE HORN IS THE HIDDEN POWER, YOU might even think of it as "The Man Behind the Mask!" For his, this seat,  shall be THE Power until Jesus returns!

     It came up among them thus must be a European Power, would you agree? As all these came up out of the Western Roman Empire, and none other! Thus this Little Horn can reside in no other location but Rome!

     NOTE 2: "...before whom there were three horns plucked up, by their roots...."

     Would pulled up by their roots, not be a final end, for these kingdoms? YES or NO?

    NOTE 3. by whom, other than the little Horn, would three be removed? NONE OTHER, right?

 Daniel 7:8. "I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things."  {Some translations have speaking pompous word}

      Now where did we find this symbolism of man? In the oldest city, Babylon, and the why for the Mouth of a Lion in Rev. 13:2.  In the form of the king Nebuchadnezzar, who placed himself above God, and became as a wolf, living as a wild animal for seven years,

 Daniel 4:30-33. "The king spake, and said, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty? While the word was in the king's mouth, there fell a voice from heaven, saying, O king Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is spoken; The kingdom is departed from thee. And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will. The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles' feathers, and his nails like birds' claws."

     NOTE: So he arises out of the ten, in a densely populated area, then three are a bother to him, so he moves and uproots three, and begins to grow like a mushroom, and begins to set man above the Divine Power.

 Daniel 7:24. "And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he...{the Little Horn}  shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

    NOTE: Does HE arise out of the Greek or the Roman empire? Roman!

Daniel 2:45. "Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure."

     NOTE: This stone, cut from a mountain without hands, shall break what into pieces? the Ten toes, of the Metal Dream Man, being also the 10 divisions earth shall be divided into.....

Revelation 17:12. "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."

     Note: This in the when of the AntiChrist, who has been among us, for 100's of years,shall then be made known to all!

 2 Thessalonians 2:3. "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

NOTE: Who are these 10 horns?   AngloSaxons/England. Franks/France. Burgundians/Swiss. Visigoths/ Spain. Alamanni/Germany. Suevi/Portugal. Lombards/Italy.
The Tree Uprooted: Heruli destroyed AD 493. Vandals. Destroyed 534 AD. and the Ostrogoths finished at 535AD.
     We have very little documentation about what they believed, regarding religion, because it has been very systematically destroyed, all we have is that they were Ayrian in their views, not believing that Jesus, although a good man, was NOT God,l thus the Little Horn had the 7 kings remove them for earth's face!

NOTE: There's no documents that have survived, and all we have is the record from the same power that moved against the tree, the "Little Horn", regarding their beliefs!  There's however anecdotal evidence that they had Gospel copies from the Holy Lands, that were more accurate than what the Little Horn used. Could this have been the same ones that the Waldenses and the Huguenots used? Most know the severe hatred the Little Horn displayed towards these two groups of Christians, right?

      St. Bartholomeus Massacre, on a Friday 13th, when 50,000 were murdered, young and old, men and women, all Christian believing in the Holy Bible! This is why the Masons hold Friday,13th as a lucky day, but that's another lesson.

NOTE: VANDALS  they subjected Rome's Little Horn so much so, that still today their memory is honored, if I may say so, by the words VANDALIZE, VANDALISM, BUT that also remains a part of this secrets loving power! The lat horn uprooted the Ostrogoths,  even held Rome for a time, and they also are said to have had the Gospel copy from Jerusalem, thus removed!

NOTE:  How many know the reason for the name of "The Dark Ages" of Europe? Well the Church of the time, kept all the bibles away from the public, because only "THEY" knew the meanings and thus understood the Bible! Even those in churches, were in areas not open to the public, plus they were chained to the tables or desks, to prevent removal!

     In 538 A.D. all opposition was removed and the Little Horn, grew to fill in the vacuum, by using it's own dogmas, especially that of excommunication, to force even Kings to bend to their rule! History has not failed to record any time State and Church form a union, persecution always results, ass we see in the Islamic world.

    As for the Visigoths, they were co-inhabitants of Spain, by the Ostrogoths, and there were many wars fought between the Franks, on the behest and on the behalf of the Little horn, against the Spanish people, for a few centuries.
     For those to whom history is a friend, just look up the person named Clovis, who as a Frank, took up the Romish Cloak, with zeal, that without him, the little horn might have taken much longer to occupy the place he does today!

Daniel 7:9. "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire."

    Here we have Daniel viewing, the area around this little kingdom.


 Daniel 7:10. "..... the judgment was set, and the books were opened."


Daniel 7:13. "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him."

      Remember clouds of heaven is an acronym for many Angels.  This is a a scene in Heaven before Jesus returns.AS the Little Horn gets ready to hold of the New World Order, all built by his many Secret Society's,  and begins to enforce his Sunday Laws,, go to Church Sunday of die, please remember what was the final straw, Egypt added, was that Israel was forced to work on the Biblical Sabbaths, and the the 10 Plagues fell upon them, as it was so shall it be again, there;s no new thing under the sun! Eccl.1:9


Daniel 7:14. "And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."

     Please know, St Peter's Cathedral, in Rome, is earth's biggest and most elaborate edifice to religion! Yet within this system, are many of God's own children who'll hear His voice, when they are called Rev.18:4. But speaking of contrasts, note we have two DOMINIONS HERE! The first is the one of the little horn,  the other is Christ receiving all power. The first system is one that shall be turned to dust, to be replaced latter by God's kingdom on earth, Rev.21.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-10. "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,  That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, [ church falls into apostasy]and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; [only two are so called, 1 Judas, the other the man of sin] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.  For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved."

     Remember how how Judas betrayed Jesus? With s Kiss, right 

 Luke 22:48 . "But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?"

        Judas pretended to still be a loyal apostle, who was anything but, will ditto for the Little Horn, whom has never been what he was portrayed to the public to be!No matter the man nor the men who held this seat over the eons of time. Again...Let no man deceive you by any means:

"... Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."


Now do YOU think, that one is being just a little bit PRESUMPTUOUS?  Yes very much so! This power claims and speaks that Salvation is only through him!

 1 John 4:3. "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

PLEASE NOTE:  If you forget all this info, please remember the 1JOHN 4;3 verse, and remember the Little Horn is very busily reducing Jesus Christ' s role and is pushing His flesh mother, Mary, of whom there is not one word of her resurrection in the entire Bible, in fact she as is King David still in the tomb! READ "Where are the Dead"?

"...and even now already is it in the world."   This must mean he's been here all along right?


1 John 2:18. "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."

2 John 1:7. "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an Antichrist.?

   Thus we know this man, and these men, could NOT have come out of any empire, but the last one, the one one that came out of the 4th, Beast Pagan Rome. However at this time you should learn that the term Anti Christ, within the Greek of the New testament, should read, "Instead of Christ", as an impostor, a play- actor.
    Nor could he, as many teach, come out from a tribe in Palestine, way down into the future because his is already in the world at the time of John's writings, close to 2,000 years ago!

 Now, at this time 1/2 of all Christians are taught that the Antichrist, has already come and gone, in the form of Antiochus 3rd, who is said to have roasted a pig inside the Temple of Jerusalem. But the Bible says he came out of the 4th beast after the decline of the ten. Yet the other 1/2 are taught he'll come AFTER the Rapture, yet John said he was already at work, under cover so to speak , in his time! Thus neither are correct, nor can be, as neither line up with the Word of God!.

2 Thessalonians 2:5-6. "Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time."

      The word withholdeth, means there's a power that holding him back, but who but God is able? no other!

2 Thessalonians 2:7. "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."

      Iniquity means lawlessness, so whose but God's laws would the "Instead of Christ"  be breaking? Please think, we quickly blame God for all natural disasters, right? Is this correct? What parent would destroy a home to kill his or her family, on a regular basis? NONE neither would God who calls death and sin the final enemies!
     All this is the workings of Satan, who can create but only destroy, now think of what life would be like, if God removed all His restraining power from this earth? How long would anyone still live?

2 Thessalonians 2:8. "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:"


 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10. "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved."

      If one has no love for the truth, then what do they love? Lies, deceptions! What's God's answer?

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12. "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

     Can you now see, the why so, many can preach Biblical lies, but with conviction that they believe it the truth? Can now not also see the why the IRS has some 40,000 different denominations on the tax exempt list?

     NOTE, Any large sized Dictionary, will tell you the root meaning for the word Denomination is Divide, now think. . . who but Satan is always trying to divide men from God?  THINK!

     SO I ask you, can this power so deceive humanity, that it has people thinking they can be saved based upon their own works, and  within this Little horn power? Would that still be in harmony with God's Word?  NO!
     This power set up human criteria and not the Divine criteria, how can this be a good thing for us?

 From: Romanism and the Reformation (H. Grattan Guinness, P. 105. (1887)


   "Here we have a point on which Paul affirms the existence of knowledge in the Christian Church. The early church knew, he says, what the hindrance was. The early Church tells us what it did know upon the subject, and no one in these days can be in a position to contradict its testimony as to what Paul had by word of mouth only, told the Thessalonians.It is a point on which ancient tradition alone can have authority. Modern speculation is positively impertinent on such a subject."
       "While the Caesars held imperial power, it was impossible for the predicted Antichrist to arise. . .On th4e fall of the Caesars he could arise."


Tertullian, "On the Resurrection" Chats. 24,25. Christian Apologists in North Africa (200 AD)


"... he who now hinders must hinder until he be taken out of the way. What obstacle is there but the Roman state: The falling away of which, be being scattered into ten kingdoms, shall introduce Antichrist."


    Is this not exactly what Daniel 7 foretold?  That when the Pagan Roman state, under the Emperors, was no more then the Antichrist would appear, and Tertullian the Roman historian agreed in A.D. 200

 John  Chrysostom Hannity on 2 Thessalonians 2:4 {Bishop of Constantinople (390)

    "Only there is one that restraineth now, until he be taken out of the way, that is the Roman Empire is taken away and then the Antichrist  shall come."


Edward B. Elliot "Commentary on the Apocalypse. Vol 3.p. 92 (1862)  We find this:
  "We have the consenting testimony of the early fathers, from Ireneus, the disciple of St. John, down to Chrysostom and Jerome to the effect that it was understood to be the imperial power ruling and residing at Rome."

Does this not make it simple? When Pagan Rome fell the Antichrist arose!

Dr. Ron Thompson, "Champions of Christianity in Search of the Truth" p.47. 1996
"Paul did not identify the restraining power they knew to be Rome, for fear of reprisals. Remember the Christian Church was under persecutions by Rome."

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