Friday, July 12, 2019
THE CLASH OF RIGHTS...Where's the Balance? SIGN OF THE times JUNE 2019.
MY MANY THANKS TO BOTH NICHOLAS MILLER AND THIS MAGAZINE. [John B]
WHAT'S THE SOLUTION WHEN THE RIGHTS ENSHRINED IN THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION SEEM JO CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER????
AS THE EXECUTIVE AND legislative BRANCHES OF THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT DESCEND INTO NEW DEPTHS OF PARTISAN CONFLICT AND GRIDLOCK ADVOCACY GROUPS ARE TURING EVER MORE FREQUENTLY TO THE COURTS TO RESOLVE ISSUES THAT REGULAR POLITICS CANNOT. [ or seems to be unwilling to do, for political reasons!]
NOTE(JB): This is where the Special Interests, go JUDGE SHOPPING which in the end, produces the tyranny of the minorities! ANTIFA {anti- Fascist} are as Fascist as any of the past, it's THEIR WAY or nothing! Yet not one Democrat has said a word in opposition, to my knowledge. But then again, history {as it occurred} is filled with Democratic evils! They were in control of the Southern States, from the top to the bottom, and they wanted to keep the SLAVERY SYSTEM intact, and fired the first shot in the Civil War. After wards the created and supported the KKK, and when the nations rebelled against them, they made up the "JIM CROW LAWS", yet somehow they managed to push the blame upon the Republicans,j and enjoyed the 100% support5 of our Black population! {Go Figure } but that's slowly changing, as people do learn the truth, in spite of all the "REVISED HISTORY BOOKS" Propagated by the Centers of Socialistic Learning, in Collages and Universities., whose annual costs have increased many times faster as the Government Support is steadily increased the
Student's support system. {WHY not? The TAX PAYERS are many and deep pockets in the Take from those that have, to those that need as Communistic thinking} Just look at today's situation between segments of society, in gun rights, and religion and LGBT, civil rights on the other hand! Whose rights are superior? NEITHER SHOULD BE!!!! HOWEVER FEW LOVE TO HAVE EITHER SIDE'S VIEWS "SHOVED INTO OUR FACES", CONSTANTLY! WHAT PEOPLE DO I N THEIR PRIVACY IS BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR DEITY! THIS DOES NOT BELONG IN AND FOR PUBLIC DISPLAYS. {We all pass water, and excrement, but MOST do so in private ,right?]
2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
Sorry, it does NOT say anything about being about not being physically UNABLE to work...No work= No eat!
But the courts, (JB are run by Human beings, and no human is perfect} thus are not immune from the same extreme and absolutist language and views that have come to characterize our politics.
Competing social groups wrap their causes in lofty language of the Bill of Rights and insist on the absolute priority of their rights over all others. We ALL must choose, we are told, between gun rights or victims' rights, [JB.. what about the gun owners' rights of self-protection, if you don't believe that this is valid, why not paint a sign in your front yard, "GUN_FREE ZONE"? Put your life where your mouth is! ] or religious rights or sexual and gender rights, freedom of speech, or reputation's rights.
But such absolutists advocacy that "MY rights or group should always win, seriously overlooks the history of rights reflected in the text of the Bill of Rights., itself.
History shows our Protestant heritage of rights to be a community affair, which means that no right is absolute.
NOTE(JB) : The ONLY absolutes are found in right and wrong, truth. They are found in the Word of God, the Holy Bible! Today most are ruled by SITUATIONAL ETHICS.
So we find ourselves with a rather a collection of values that must be weighed, balanced, and carefully calibrated. The commitment to the overall system of rights is as important as the belief in any single right.
1 Corinthians 10:31 " Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."
The above is the reason why "HATE-SPEECH" is also against man's law. My constitutional Law professor made this point by asking us what the "Freedom of Speech" meant in the First Amendment. I had not ever thought about the significance of that article but could see that it did more than simply protect freedom of speech. The article conveyed the idea of regulating set of principles surrounding the idea of free-speech. Protecting the "Freedom of Speech also incorporated long standing common law principles about limiting libel, slander, and reputation. That's the why hate-speech is against the law!
This balancing of rights and values was seen even more explicitly in the religion clauses. The First Amendment did not just protect the "Free Exercise of Religion", but also forbade laws "Respecting an establishment of religion". The two clauses meant that neither could be interpreted in an absolute fashion: rather they must be weighed in some kind of tension and balance.
NOTE(JB) : In a true Christian world, No one would demand that their personal will be done, but rather ask, "Would you be willing to do God's will? But that's not how the facts are today, its all "IN YOUR FACE" CONFRONTATIONAL ISM Or better put, each side says, "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY"! C. U. I N COURT! That's Satan's deceptions!
Personally, all these life-styles, are private, and should remain in the home, and should remain between those who so choose, and their Creator-God! When mankind judges, he, or she, is "Spitting into the wind hoping to stay DRY"
Y O U need facts??? IF...IF all the world accepted and practiced the gay lifestyle, in ONE GENERATION, the human race would become extinct!
Matthew 7:3 "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
Luke 6:37 " Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:"
SHAKE and BAKE.
Thus, the Masterpiece Cake-shop case, which pitted the Colorado Christian's rights of conscience and expression against the non-discriminating rights of a gay couple, involved a careful balancing of rights and fundamental values. Some religious liberty experts fear that the Supreme Court was too nuanced in its decision in the Christian Baker's case. Though Jack Phillips, the Christian baker, won the case, he did so because a lower state tribunal judges had make remarks that appeared biased against Christians.
Some argue that the Masterpiece Bake Shop decision only protects religious convictions from overt abuse and ridicule and that if the lower court politely denied the rights of the baker instead of ridiculing his beliefs, he would not have had a case.This narrow reading of the decision seems hard to justify. But it has caused activists in the LGBT community to immediately turn around and sue the same Christian baker...again... Justice Brett Kavanaugh has tilted the court, probably quite decisively, in the conservative direction. He replaced Justice Kennedy, who was a moderate, voted regularly, and often would vote with the liberal wing as often as he voted with the conservative wing. and he had become a zealous advocate of LGBT rights.
NOTE (JB) : But does not this point out the very serious question: "Whose rights are superior"? Can one right supersede another, if yes then which side gets the courts "blessings"? What WILL be the cost to the public at large? What will this do to the rapists rights? The bank robbers rights? Well, you say, all these are against the law, but then so was Sodomy, at one time, right? Where do we as a society draw the line, when we chose to operate outside of the The Ten Commandments of God?
Please know the first FOUR Laws from God, are for our relationships with Him, the remaining 6 are for our relationships with each other-------- note.....
Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
The above is the "Spirit" of the law which says...
Deuteronomy 5:18 ".Neither shalt thou commit adultery."
WHOSE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM?
But, again, religious freedom advocates need to remember that here, too, there is danger in absolutism. Rights to sexual freedom and identity can become oppressive if given no meaningful limits, but claims to "Religious Freedoms" can also be used as a tool to entrench or impose the beliefs of a religious majority.
Though religious liberty is the first and foundational freedom in that it reveals the transcendence nature of all our rights, it cannot be absolute.Murder, adultery, or theft cannot be justified or defended in the name of exercising one's religious liberty.Similarly, a religion that claims the right to impose itself on others through the use of public funds, resources, or policies can become as oppressive as the secular ideologies it seeks to appose..
NOTE(JB) : Whenever, and, wherever, Church and state became one, PERSECUTIONS SOON FOLLOWED! Look at ISIS today and, the Roman Church of yesteryears, "The Dark Ages"
A hint that the court may be moving towards this other extreme was revealed in a very recent matter of a death row inmate Domineque Ray. Ray was a Muslim believer, and he requested that he be allowed to have an Imam, a Muslim clergyman, at his side during his final moments. Prison regulation, however, only permitted prison employees to be in the death chamber, and only chaplains on staff were Christian. So Christian inmates could have a Christian chaplain at their side at an execution, but other faiths were out of luck.
Ray challenged this up to the Supreme Court, but all five conservative judges on this court sided against Ray, ruling that the First Amendment did not provide him equal access to a chaplain of his religion.
Interestingly, the four liberal judges sided with Ray, arguing that the Constitution required religious groups to be treated equally. Justice Elena Kagan wrote that "The clearest command of the Establishment Clause" is that "one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another", but,, "the State's policy does just that." So the conservatives who often have the most to say about religious liberty, at times don't appear to extend that same freedom to Non-Christian Religions.
The conservative justices also seem less aware of the importance of the Establishment Clause to maintaining religious freedom. In the First Amendment, our Protestant Founders sought to balance the right to religious freedom with the right to be free from religious impositions be state authorities. Religious people cannot, in the name of religious freedom, impose their religious beliefs through the mechanisms of the state.
A COMMUNITY OF RIGHTS.
This same pattern of balancing of values ca n be seen throughout the Bill of Rights, as the rights of individual privacy, give way to public security concerns in the face of particularized search warrants: life, liberty, and property are protected from arbitrary or lawless intrusions, and rights of victims and the accused are balanced through procedural protections.
This Protestant idea of the community of rights is brought to its height in the Ninth Amendment. Here it is acknowledged that the community of rights extends beyond those listed in the Constitution--- that the rights listed in the Constitution should not be used or " construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people"
NOTE(JB) : In other words, to quote an old saying, "Your rights stops your fist 1/4 of an inch from my nose! This all rights are equal, and no one's rights are superior to an other's! IF..IF I am a baker, and a same sex couple wants me to bake them a cake commemorating their union, they should ask, if that's OK with me, IF..IF its not, then ask me If I know a baker that is willing. All, concerned part in a good mood! But I guess that's the why we in the U.S of A. have more lawyers that rest of the world, combined! They ALL want to make a living, right?
Matthew 22:35 "Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,"
It reminds originalists and living constitutionalists alike that we are meant to interpret the3 rights, both internal and external, in which it itself was formed Further, it reveals that these rights are not the product or gift of the Government but reside in the people. The Declaration of Independence reveals that these rights did not originate with the people; they originated with God Himself.
DELICATE BALANCE.
This all means that the wrong position on a host of constitutional rights questions may not be primarily HOW one comes down of an issue, but rather the MANNER in which the position is held. The wrong position in all cases involving a clash of fundamental rights is the one that says these are easy cases for the Supreme Court. Those who admit the difficulty of the balancing of the values involved have it right, however they many come out on the merits of these cases.
Freedom of religion, expression, and movements are among our most venerable and deeply rooted liberties; yet nondiscrimination, personal safety, and national security are also profound values that are core and central to our society. Whenever these rights clash, a fair resolution will involve careful, nuanced, difficult evaluations of values and balancing of interests.
To say that a decision that involves such competing values is easy means ignoring years of history and experiences during which our national community has learned to appreciate also important values. It's easy to remember the individual rights that we personally value the most. But it's also easy to forget the community of rights, of which they are a part--- a community of give and take that makes our society a civil and fair place to life, for all people, of all faiths, and values.
This is the society that our dissenting Protestant founders envisioned and that has become a blessing and safeguard for people of all faiths and no-faiths alike. We do well to seek tp preserve it from extremes of either the secular left or the Zealous right.
Nicolas Miller, IJ,PhD, is a professor of history at Andrews University, Berrien Springs , Michigan , who specializes in religious liberty and constitutional law.
The state of Colorado withdrew its legal action against Masterpiece Cakeshop before the case reached the Supreme Court, probably recognizing that, given the Court's conservative majority, their chance of winning was slim.
Thanking Y O U, for your time. Questions? Comments? John at bazenj@gmail.com
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Thursday, June 20, 2019
Part 4 of 4.; SATAN'S LAST RESORT. Pastor Steven Bohr
As always my many thanks to Pastor Bohr, for his always in depth studies. John B.
SATAN'S LAST RESORT.
When human probation closes, Satan will have full control over the finally impenitent, [ Great Controversy P.614}....
Revelation 22:11 " He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."
Note(JB): The above speaks to the living at Jesus' return, those now living, it shall be at their last breath, the person's life is sealed, for good or evil, as there's no repenting possible from the grave. The "Breath of Life," then returns to He who created it, Genesis 2:7 Dust {body}+ Breath of Life = a living soul, remove any one and it's death. 1 Corinthians 15:5-55/ read it.
Yet there will be a small remnant {an identical copy of the church that founded} that refuses to bow to his authority. Up to this point, Satan has carried on his work of deception through his emissary, the "Man of sin", toward the end of the great tribulation. Satan will take matters into his own hands {jb for the first time]. He will personally counterfeit the second coming of Christ, 'to deceive, if possible, the very elect " [Matthew 24 23-24.]
The apostle Paul described this climatic moment in..
2 Thessalonians 2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked One-[ the Little Horn, the man of sin] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
NOTE (JB): remember these two highlighted words in the Greek the word is Parousia and used here only! NB*
THREE POINTS NEED TO BE MADE HERE.
SATAN'S LAST RESORT.
When human probation closes, Satan will have full control over the finally impenitent, [ Great Controversy P.614}....
Revelation 22:11 " He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."
Note(JB): The above speaks to the living at Jesus' return, those now living, it shall be at their last breath, the person's life is sealed, for good or evil, as there's no repenting possible from the grave. The "Breath of Life," then returns to He who created it, Genesis 2:7 Dust {body}+ Breath of Life = a living soul, remove any one and it's death. 1 Corinthians 15:5-55/ read it.
Yet there will be a small remnant {an identical copy of the church that founded} that refuses to bow to his authority. Up to this point, Satan has carried on his work of deception through his emissary, the "Man of sin", toward the end of the great tribulation. Satan will take matters into his own hands {jb for the first time]. He will personally counterfeit the second coming of Christ, 'to deceive, if possible, the very elect " [Matthew 24 23-24.]
The apostle Paul described this climatic moment in..
2 Thessalonians 2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked One-[ the Little Horn, the man of sin] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
NOTE (JB): remember these two highlighted words in the Greek the word is Parousia and used here only! NB*
THREE POINTS NEED TO BE MADE HERE.
- FIRST: we are no longer dealing generally with the 'mystery of lawlessness' that was chomping at the bit to reveal itself in the days of Paul, but rather with the 'law-less ONE" . Satan now takes matters into his own hands.
- SECOND: the word *Parousia* appears twice in these verses. In the first reference, the word describes Christ's Second coming {REMEMBER JESUS' FEET WILL NOT TOUCH THIS EARTH, HE'LL BE I N THE CLOUDS] this feet Satan will not be allowed to copy his feet shall be on this earth! Remember Satan will have his counterfeit PAROUSIA, BEFORE the real Messiah comes.
- THIRD: the combination of the three Greek words 'power,signs and wonders' is used in only one other verse in the New Testament, where Jesus performed these marvelous works while on earth. This means that Satan will counterfeit the signs and wonders that Jesus performed while He was on this earth
Acts 2:22 "Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:"
Ellen White described Satan's counterfeit second coming and described it as the 'Almost overmastering delusions': "As the crowning act in the great drama of deception, SATAN, himself will Persinate Christ. The church has long professed to look to the Savior's advent as the consummation of her hopes. Now the great deceiver will make it appear, that Christ has come. In different parts of the world. Satan will manifest himself among men as a majestic being, of dazzling brightness, resembling the description given by John in
Revelation 1:13-15 "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters."
The glory that surrounds him is unsurpassed by anything that mortal eyes have yet beheld. The shouts of triumph rings out in the air: "Christ has come! Christ has come"! The people will Prostrate themselves in adoration, before him, while he lifts up his hands and pronounces a blessing upon them, as Christ blessed His disciples when He was upon this earth. His voice is soft and subdued, and yet full of melody in gentle, compassionate tones, he (Satan ) presents SOME heavenly truths , that the Savior uttered: he heals the diseases of the people, and then in his assumed character of Jesus Christ, he will claim that he changed the Sabbath to Sunday and commands that all to hallow the day which eh blessed. He declares that those who persist in keeping holy the Seventh Day are blaspheming his name by refusing to listen to his angels sent to them with light and truth.This is the strong, almost overmastering delusion...........The Great Controversy p. 624
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 " And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
BEFORE OR AFTER PROBATION?
Some have questioned whether Satan's counterfeit PAROUSIA will occur during the Time of Trouble after the close of probation. After all, what good would it do for Satan to counterfeit the Second Coming in order to deceive the elect if the elect were already sealed and cannot be deceived? Satan knows at this point that he will not be able to deceive the elect, as he'd has already deceived all the rest of the people!
There's two reasons why I [ Pastor Bohr]believe that Satan's counterfeit Parousia will take place After the close of probation.
FIRST: Matthew 24 describes a sequence of events in strict chronological order. The chapter repeatedly uses the word THEN (Verses 9,10,14'16,21,23,30" to describe the sequence. Matthew 24:23-27 where the counterfeit coming is described, clearly portrays the events that occur after the Sunday Law [Matthew 24:15] and during the great tribulation of Matthew 24::21-22:
SECOND: Ellen White places Stan's counterfeit Parousia in the chapter on the Time of Trouble AFTER probation's close [Great Controversy P.624]
HOWEVER.... why would Satan even bother to counterfeit the Second coming if probation has closed? After all, he knows, at least intellectually, that he will not be able to deceive the elect, he still harbours a slim hope that he can counteract The Word.
Let's pursue this line of thought with another example, that very clear. Does Satan know {and has known for centuries] that he will not be able to conquer the New Jerusalem after the millennium? Of course he does The next passage is far too clear to come to another conclusion...
Revelation 20:7-10 " And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
WHY...why then will Satan gather the multitudes to attack the city if he knows, from the Word of God, it will be fruitless? Because Satan is Satan, he's not going to give up while life remains within him! He will try to take by force what he and his non-believers rejected when it was offered freely! He and they still harbor the thin hope that they can counteract the Word of God and conquer the city, and eat from the Tree of Life!
THE GREAT ISSUE IN THE END-TIME CONFLICT.
In conclusion, what will the the great issue that will draw the battle lines in the final war? Every indication is the passage and in others is that the battle will be over exactly what it was in the beginning! OBEDIENCE, or DISOBEDIENCE
Genesis 2:17 " But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
N OTE(JB) Eve disobeyed God, rebelled and believed Satan who made use of the serpent as his ventriloquist's dummy.
More specifically, the Ten Commandment. The Little Horn THOUGHT HE COULD CHANGE GOD'S LAWS. THE NAME ANTICHRIST IS THE "MAN OF SIN" AND SIN IS THE transgression of the law {Romans 6:23] "wages of sin is death." Paul refers to the apostasy as the mystery of lawlessness.
Why has Satan declared war of the believers in Jesus?
Revelation 12:17 " And the dragon was wroth with the woman, [Christ's church] and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
NOTE(JB) Testimony of Jesus????
Revelation 19:10 "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
Ellen White's writings, she insisted that she was only a messenger, not a prophet! But ill heath allowed only an 3rd grade education yet she wrote more book and all but one lady. But she is the most translated author. WHY?
Yet it is ONLY buy the strictest adhering to the Word of God that will protect anyone from the 'almost overmastering power' of Satan, and those who accept him, will share his fate.
What is the truth that world rejected?
John 14:6 " Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
NO there's here no Mary nor any Priest.
John 17:17 "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
This 17th chapter is Jesus' longest recorded prayer, learn it!
Psalms 119:42-44 "So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word. And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; for I have hoped in thy judgments. So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever."
It is impossible to say truthfully, that I love Jesus unless, I also love His law and, His truth.
Yet always know this fact>>>>>
Isaiah 8:20 "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
Matthew 24:4 " And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."
Matthew 24:23-27 " Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
Thanking Y O U for your time Questions? Comments? bazenj@gmai,.com
PART 3 OF 3.REFLECTION OF THE PAPACY , STEVEN BHOR
AGAIN, MY MANY THANKS FOR THE WORK OF PASTOR BHOR (John B)
RELEASED ONCE AGAIN.
WHY IS THE PAPACY STILL UNDER RESTRAINT? WHY IS HER WOUND STILL FESTERING?
Malachi Martin, Jesuit scholar and a close friend of Pope John Paul II who wrote the best-selling book "Keys of this Blood" explained in 1986: " For 1500 years, and more Papel Rome had kept as strong a hand, as possible in each local community around the wide world. By aned large, and admitting some exceptions, that had the Roman View, {Ellen White calls it the 'Roman element', Great Controversy (CG) 581} until Two Hundred years of inactivity had been imposed, upon the Papacy by the Major Secular Powers, of the world. Quoted in Christianity Today, November 21, 1986 , p. 26.
There are THREE MAIN POINTS:
RELEASED ONCE AGAIN.
WHY IS THE PAPACY STILL UNDER RESTRAINT? WHY IS HER WOUND STILL FESTERING?
Malachi Martin, Jesuit scholar and a close friend of Pope John Paul II who wrote the best-selling book "Keys of this Blood" explained in 1986: " For 1500 years, and more Papel Rome had kept as strong a hand, as possible in each local community around the wide world. By aned large, and admitting some exceptions, that had the Roman View, {Ellen White calls it the 'Roman element', Great Controversy (CG) 581} until Two Hundred years of inactivity had been imposed, upon the Papacy by the Major Secular Powers, of the world. Quoted in Christianity Today, November 21, 1986 , p. 26.
There are THREE MAIN POINTS:
- The Papacy kept as STRONG HAND as possible in each local community around the wide world for 1,500 years.
- During the last 200 years, the Papacy has been restrained contrary to her will.
- The major secular powers, of the world have imposed this restraint, against her will, upon the Papacy.
We can be certain that Martin did not realize that in his statement he was describing the deadly wound and the captivity of the Papacy that is described in Revelation 13:9-10.
Revelation 13:9-10 " If any man have an ear, let him hear. He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints."
So, what happened two hundred years before Martin wrote? The French Revolution (1789- 1797). This cataclysmic event for the Papacy reached its climax when General Berthier took Pope Pius VI captive in 1798 {the end of the 1260 years of prophecy begun in 538 found in Daniel} The CIVIL SWORD that she had used, so very effectively, was turned upon her, giving her the DEADLY WOUND. France emancipated herself from the Papal Powers, ands established a free republic. As a result, one nation after the other in the western Europe , and the western Hemisphere formed democratic governments, that have not allowed the Papacy to use them to accomplish her own ends. That is to say, the secular governments have kept the Papacy restrained or in captivity.
The French Revolution did much more that just deliver France from the iron fist of the Papacy. It actually led all the major secular powers of Europe within a brief period to proclaim their emancipation from Papal dominance..
E.G.WHITE AND THE HEALING OF THE WOUND.:
The prophecy of Revelation 13 tells us the history of the Papacy is NOT yet complete. The chapter tells us that the civil rulers will once again allow the Papacy to attach herself to them, to determine and dictate her agenda. The striking prophecy of Revelation 13: 3, and 11-18 explains that the secular powers of the world following the lead of the United States, will release the3 papacy from its captivity, and then she will behave as she did in her heyday. Then the Prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2 will reach its complete fulfillment.
NOTE(JB): remembering always, from the Book of Daniel, that the Bible's beasts, the earthly kingdoms that put both civil and church into one, and that the steady march to the west from Babylon, to the Medo-Persians, to the Greeks, and then to the Rome of the Caesars and finally all the west to the New World. The Little Horn = Papacy, came up in the seas of humanity, but the U.S. came up out of the ground = not many people.
Revelation 13:1-3 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
NOTE (JB) : John is looking back into time, but Daniel was given the view forwards into time, in case you think the Bible errs, thus the why the "animals" are list in a different order!
However, Revelation 17th chapter vividly portrays the final chapter of the prophecy of 2nd Thess.2 and Rev.13:3 , 11-18 we see a woman, a harlot sustains an adulterous spiritual relationships with the civil rulers of the earth...
Revelation 17:1-2 "And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."
Revelation 17:15 " And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."
The Kings of the world gladly drink her fermented wine . of false doctrines....
Revelation 17:4 "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:"
NOTE(JB): Ever see all the pomp and ceremony of Catholic mass? What5 are the Primary colors?
She has DAUGHTERS, that were "born" from her at some point because her name is the "Mother of Harlots
Revelation 17:5 "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
Note(JB): Since the late 1980's under the misstated, as the Ecumenical Movement, most of earth's religions, have kissed the Papal Ring i n fealty. As Pope Frances, the Jesuit Priest, said "let us come together i n love, of Jesus Christ, and when we get to heaven all doctrinal differences will be explained and resolved." Sorry Mr. Priest, that MUST be resolved by each person, before probation closes, How can we know this, Jesus the Shepherd has His sheep, but Satan has his goats, remember? Only sheep will gain entry into the Pearly Gates! But then this human kingdom has not ever put much stock in the Holy Bible right? As the writings of the early church fathers,takes precedence, over the Bible!! Most significantly...
Revelation 17:6 " And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration."
NOTE(JB) : Please stop to think, could a Church, wind-up ruling all the earth, without some super-natural help?
Revelation 13:2 "And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."
Revelation 12:9 " And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him"
Ellen G. White wrote 150 years before Malachi Martin and used virtually Identical Terminology, she predicted that the Civil Powers of the world would remove the restraint they have placed upon her , the Papacy and the result would be a revival of her tyranny....
The Great Controversy (G.C.) p.564.. "let the restraints now imposed buy secular governments be removed and Rome be reinstated i her former power, and there would speedily be a revival of her tyranny and persecutions."
THE PARALLEL OF REVELATION 20:
Revelation 20, helps us understand the binding and unbinding of the Papacy jby the Secular Powers. In these last days [of current flesh men] of earth's history, Satan is alive and free to accomplish his purposes because he is able to influence the CIVIL POWERS, of the world to do his bidding.. Satan has always accomplish his purposes by using the willing sword of the Secular powers.
Remember Satan used Pharaoh, the great dragon [Ezekiel 29:3] to attempt to destroy Moses. In Revelation 12, we find a fiery red dragon standing before the woman [Mary] and {Christ's Church} to devour her child [Jesus] as soon as He was born. Satan was behind the plot, but the visible instrument that Satan used was Herod, the pagan ruler od the dragon's system of power the Roman Empire.
While Daniel 7:25 tells us the Little Horn, [the Papacy] persecuted the saints, of the Most High, ' for a time, times, and the dividing of time' Revelation 12;6 AND 13-15 tells us the Dragon persecuted the woman for the same period. Thus the Little Horn, The Vatican, was the Dragon's agent!
In Revelation 3:10, God announced that Satan would cas5t many members of the church of Smyrna into prison for ten days. Satan did not do this but used Diocletian jto accomplish his agenda.
In the present, Satan is well, and free, wreaking havoc because the civil powers of the earth are at his disposal to carry out his agenda.....
NOTE(JB) : Please do not think that all the wars of history, did not have Satan's efforts and blessings!
However, when Jesus comes, all the kings of the earth, that did Satan's bidding, will die!
[Revelation 19:20} Without his base of support to carry forward his agenda, Satan will be Wounded, and in captivity [Revelation 20:1-3.]
However, after the 1,000 years, [the Millennium] the wicked kings all who obeyed men, will be resurrected [but with the ills, diseases they died with] will once again be deceived by Satan,
and this is how Satan's wound is healed, he has people to deceive once more, [Revelation 20: 1`-3, 7-9]
In short, when Satan loses the support of the kings of the earth at the Second Coming, he will be mortally wounded, in captivity, but when he regains their support after the Millennium, his wound is healed and he is freed from captivity {chained by circumstances]. In a similar manner, when the Papacy is able to use the civil powers to accomplish her will, she is healed and free of restraint, but when the civil rulers withdraw their support she is wounded and in captivity. Moreover, when the kings restore the sword, the papacy will be healed and free once again.
THE PAPACY'S 'HEALER'
Revelation 13:11-1`8. describes a beast ( remember this is the Bible denoting a earthly power that puts church a nd state together as one) that rises from the ground, as opposed to the Little Horn/The Vatican coming up our of the sea of peoples, this beast represents the United States of America. {at the time it was a very sparsely populated, land mass.
Revelation 13:11-18 " And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
I n the first stage of its existence, this nation guaranties full civil and religious liberty,separating church and state. However, at the near-end of ot its existence it will do all in its power to remove the restraints from the Papacy, and the Little Horn, will once more rule with all the power she sued to exert.
E.G.WHITE AND THE HEALING OF THE WOUND.:
The prophecy of Revelation 13 tells us the history of the Papacy is NOT yet complete. The chapter tells us that the civil rulers will once again allow the Papacy to attach herself to them, to determine and dictate her agenda. The striking prophecy of Revelation 13: 3, and 11-18 explains that the secular powers of the world following the lead of the United States, will release the3 papacy from its captivity, and then she will behave as she did in her heyday. Then the Prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2 will reach its complete fulfillment.
NOTE(JB): remembering always, from the Book of Daniel, that the Bible's beasts, the earthly kingdoms that put both civil and church into one, and that the steady march to the west from Babylon, to the Medo-Persians, to the Greeks, and then to the Rome of the Caesars and finally all the west to the New World. The Little Horn = Papacy, came up in the seas of humanity, but the U.S. came up out of the ground = not many people.
Revelation 13:1-3 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
NOTE (JB) : John is looking back into time, but Daniel was given the view forwards into time, in case you think the Bible errs, thus the why the "animals" are list in a different order!
However, Revelation 17th chapter vividly portrays the final chapter of the prophecy of 2nd Thess.2 and Rev.13:3 , 11-18 we see a woman, a harlot sustains an adulterous spiritual relationships with the civil rulers of the earth...
Revelation 17:1-2 "And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."
Revelation 17:15 " And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."
The Kings of the world gladly drink her fermented wine . of false doctrines....
Revelation 17:4 "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:"
NOTE(JB): Ever see all the pomp and ceremony of Catholic mass? What5 are the Primary colors?
She has DAUGHTERS, that were "born" from her at some point because her name is the "Mother of Harlots
Revelation 17:5 "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
Note(JB): Since the late 1980's under the misstated, as the Ecumenical Movement, most of earth's religions, have kissed the Papal Ring i n fealty. As Pope Frances, the Jesuit Priest, said "let us come together i n love, of Jesus Christ, and when we get to heaven all doctrinal differences will be explained and resolved." Sorry Mr. Priest, that MUST be resolved by each person, before probation closes, How can we know this, Jesus the Shepherd has His sheep, but Satan has his goats, remember? Only sheep will gain entry into the Pearly Gates! But then this human kingdom has not ever put much stock in the Holy Bible right? As the writings of the early church fathers,takes precedence, over the Bible!! Most significantly...
Revelation 17:6 " And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration."
NOTE(JB) : Please stop to think, could a Church, wind-up ruling all the earth, without some super-natural help?
Revelation 13:2 "And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."
Revelation 12:9 " And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him"
Ellen G. White wrote 150 years before Malachi Martin and used virtually Identical Terminology, she predicted that the Civil Powers of the world would remove the restraint they have placed upon her , the Papacy and the result would be a revival of her tyranny....
The Great Controversy (G.C.) p.564.. "let the restraints now imposed buy secular governments be removed and Rome be reinstated i her former power, and there would speedily be a revival of her tyranny and persecutions."
THE PARALLEL OF REVELATION 20:
Revelation 20, helps us understand the binding and unbinding of the Papacy jby the Secular Powers. In these last days [of current flesh men] of earth's history, Satan is alive and free to accomplish his purposes because he is able to influence the CIVIL POWERS, of the world to do his bidding.. Satan has always accomplish his purposes by using the willing sword of the Secular powers.
Remember Satan used Pharaoh, the great dragon [Ezekiel 29:3] to attempt to destroy Moses. In Revelation 12, we find a fiery red dragon standing before the woman [Mary] and {Christ's Church} to devour her child [Jesus] as soon as He was born. Satan was behind the plot, but the visible instrument that Satan used was Herod, the pagan ruler od the dragon's system of power the Roman Empire.
While Daniel 7:25 tells us the Little Horn, [the Papacy] persecuted the saints, of the Most High, ' for a time, times, and the dividing of time' Revelation 12;6 AND 13-15 tells us the Dragon persecuted the woman for the same period. Thus the Little Horn, The Vatican, was the Dragon's agent!
In Revelation 3:10, God announced that Satan would cas5t many members of the church of Smyrna into prison for ten days. Satan did not do this but used Diocletian jto accomplish his agenda.
In the present, Satan is well, and free, wreaking havoc because the civil powers of the earth are at his disposal to carry out his agenda.....
NOTE(JB) : Please do not think that all the wars of history, did not have Satan's efforts and blessings!
However, when Jesus comes, all the kings of the earth, that did Satan's bidding, will die!
[Revelation 19:20} Without his base of support to carry forward his agenda, Satan will be Wounded, and in captivity [Revelation 20:1-3.]
However, after the 1,000 years, [the Millennium] the wicked kings all who obeyed men, will be resurrected [but with the ills, diseases they died with] will once again be deceived by Satan,
and this is how Satan's wound is healed, he has people to deceive once more, [Revelation 20: 1`-3, 7-9]
In short, when Satan loses the support of the kings of the earth at the Second Coming, he will be mortally wounded, in captivity, but when he regains their support after the Millennium, his wound is healed and he is freed from captivity {chained by circumstances]. In a similar manner, when the Papacy is able to use the civil powers to accomplish her will, she is healed and free of restraint, but when the civil rulers withdraw their support she is wounded and in captivity. Moreover, when the kings restore the sword, the papacy will be healed and free once again.
THE PAPACY'S 'HEALER'
Revelation 13:11-1`8. describes a beast ( remember this is the Bible denoting a earthly power that puts church a nd state together as one) that rises from the ground, as opposed to the Little Horn/The Vatican coming up our of the sea of peoples, this beast represents the United States of America. {at the time it was a very sparsely populated, land mass.
Revelation 13:11-18 " And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
I n the first stage of its existence, this nation guaranties full civil and religious liberty,separating church and state. However, at the near-end of ot its existence it will do all in its power to remove the restraints from the Papacy, and the Little Horn, will once more rule with all the power she sued to exert.
- IT [The U.S.] will exercise all the Authority of the First Beast.
- IT will force the whole world to WORSHIP the First Beast.[NIV- on behalf. CEV. It worked for]
- IT will make an Image of the First Beast. [See Daniel chapter 3 about the image of gold}
- IT will make the image to bring Honor [to the beast] a nd whosoever does not worship the image will be killed.
- IT will enforce the Mark of First Beast on pain of not being able to buy nor sell.
IT, being this American nation! note: E.R.White: "Testimonies to the Church, Vol.6. p18. Every country on the globe will follow the example of the United States. "As America, the land of religious liberty shall unite with the Papacy in forcing the conscience and compelling men to honor the false sabbath, the people of every country on the globe, will be led to follow her example."\
NEXT:SATAN'S LAST RESORT.
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Wednesday, June 12, 2019
Part 2 of 4. REFLECTIONS OF THE PAPACY BY PASTOR S. BHOR.
THE REST OF THE STORY.
Again my many thanks to Secrets unsealed and Pastor Bhor..(john b)
In summary, let's look at what we've seen so far....
Again my many thanks to Secrets unsealed and Pastor Bhor..(john b)
In summary, let's look at what we've seen so far....
- So long as the Roman Empire and their Emperors held the power, the Bishops of Rome held power in within the religious flied.
- When Constantine moved the Seat of the Empire east to Constantinople [Istanbul- Turkey] and the northern tribes, "Barbarians" carved up the western Europe, that was when the "RESTRAINER" was taken out of the way........
2 Thessalonians 2:7 " For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
However look at these verses......
2 Thessalonians 2:3 " Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"
Revelation 13:18 " Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
Please note this is 6 6 6 and not Satan's number, but that of a m an with a particular bent of character. Satan is still a powerful angel, fallen though he is, but he's not...a man. This character meant that as each successor to the Papal throne, from which also the Caesars ruled, but the Popes ruled both civil and church as one, for 1260 years, from 538 to 1798, but they greatly increased their powers beginning in 457 A.D.
However, there's a chapter of the story that Paul did not tell the Thessalonians. We must remember that when the apostle Paul died, John had not yet written the Book of Revelations [of Jesus Christ] Thus Paul relied on Daniel 7th chapter. Revelation 13 expands upon this 7th chapter of Daniel, i n point of fact, Daniel' book is a must, as a n "Overlay" to Revelation, in order to understand it.
Revelation 13:1-10 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3.And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.4. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9.If any man have an ear, let him hear 10. He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints."
This passage expands Daniel 7 and adds the "Man of Sin", would have TWO periods of domination, on isw now past, the other is yet to come. .Verses 1 and, 2. this emphasized that the "chains" have been released, from 538 to 1798, the 1260 days/years, the 42 months [Rev. 11:2 and 13:5] The second period of Papal power will be destroyed as...
Daniel 7:25-26 " And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end."
At Christ's Second coming HE shall destroy this dominion, as well as any non-believers.....
2 Thessalonians 2:8 "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:"
As no sinner can live, before Christ or the Father's glory, and not be consumed! The why for this verse....
Matthew 24:28 " For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together."
Plus see Luke 17:37.
In similar fashion, Jesus spoke about the resurrection of the just and the wicked asd if they would occur at the same time......
John 5:28-29 " Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."
Thus, a simple reading of these verses leaves the impression that the two resurrection occur at the same time, because the two gives not the smallest of hints that these actions, are in reality, separated by the Millennium's 1,000 years........
Revelation 20:5-6 " But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."
Note (JB) : This is one reason for the why we have so many divisions in Christian Churches..people taking hold of verses that they agree with, and forget the rest!
In similar fashion, Jesus spoke about the resurrection of the just and the wicked asd if they would occur at the same time......
John 5:28-29 " Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."
Thus, a simple reading of these verses leaves the impression that the two resurrection occur at the same time, because the two gives not the smallest of hints that these actions, are in reality, separated by the Millennium's 1,000 years........
Revelation 20:5-6 " But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."
Note (JB) : This is one reason for the why we have so many divisions in Christian Churches..people taking hold of verses that they agree with, and forget the rest!
Im 1798 AD, the civil power of France {Napoleon] wanting to crown himself Emperor, knew he needed to overthrow the Papal powers. This was followed by other nations and the Vatican was reduced to being only a Church, without any territory, therefore no civil powers," THE DEADLY WOUND", from which she is still not fully healed, even though Mussolini, i n 1929 concluded a treaty in which he restored 114 Acres of land , and she again became a nation, and why the Popes have spoken in the U.N. as they are a Nation,, but she does not yet have civil powers over other nations as yet!
However....... Revelation 13:3-4 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"
Yes, this action is as of 2019, still future, these verses show that this United States of America has a Biblical role to play...
Revelation 13:11-12 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."
NOTE (JB): Please re-read Daniel, and learn that God the Creator {John 1:1-3,14.}foretold Dan.7 the earthly kingdoms from Babylon to Medo-Persia, to Greece under A.The Great, to Pagan Rome, to Papal Rome, as the steady march from East to West.
Where the Papal Rome as The Little Horn, CAME UP in a SEA OF PEOPLE, the USA came up out of the earth { low population] BUT it was by the power of the U.S. for all earth to worship the Beast whose wound by this act is now fully healed. and She SHALL again exercise the power of the sword that has has used for her 1260 years of absolute rule.."Believe as we say or die" is not an ISIS invention! Rome used for centuries, ask the Vandals, The Visigoths, and, The Lombards as they were "Pulled Up By The Roots," [Daniel 7:8 } between 475 and 538AD, when she took full control over church and state, via Excommunication threats!
I n the days of the apostle Paul, the civil power of Rome was restraining the man of sin but in 538, AD, the restraint was 'taken out of the way'. However, Paul did not explain that the civil powers of the world would restrain the Papacy once more in 1798 AD, only to release her once again near the end of history (1929 AD]
THE TWO STAGES OF THE MAN OF SIN.
Ellen White,in full accord with the Book of Revelations of Jesus Christ, explained the two stages of the 'man of sin': "The influence of Rome in the countries that once acknowledged her Dominion {Meaning a King and his domain] is still far from being destroyed and prophecy foretell a RESTORATION of her power. 'I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed; and all the world wondered after the beast." Great Controversy P. 579, and
Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."
"When our nation [United States of America] shall so abjure {do away with} the principles of its government as to enact a Sunday Law; Protestantism will in this act join hands with popery: it will be nothing else that GIVING LIFE to the tyranny which has so long been eagerly watching its opportunity to SPRING AGAIN into active despotism." Testimonies to the Church, vol 5,p.712 {E.G.White estate.com}
Sings of the Times June 12, 1893... "Protestants will throw their whole influence and strength on the side of the Papacy [ Church of England is now fully Catholic,as have most other earthly religions rushed home to "Mother Church" , Ecumenical movements, truth & error mixed into a religious stew!] by a national act enforcing the flash Sabbath of Sunday worships thus giving LIFE & VIGOR back again to the corrupt faith of Rome, Reviving her tyranny and oppression of conscience. Then it will be time for God to work in His mighty power for the vindication of truth "
Revelation 14:6-11 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
NOTE (JB): FOREVER TORMENT? NO! For the wicked to be able to be punished eternally, MUST mean that God gives willing sinners eternal life! Death and sin are the last two enemies taken away, forever! Punishments shall be swift, BUT the RESULTS shall be forever.Biblical Illiteracy is running rampant since Evolution has been taught as truthful science.Its all nonsense, fabricated and upheld by atheists!
The BIG BANG ? Nothing came together with nothing and that caused the Big Bang??????? LIFE? Well that came to be from dirt and time! Believe it? Then I have an deal for Y O U ! Ocean Beachfront property in Nebraska, really cheap!
Notably. secular Philosopher AYN RAND, who wrote in 1067 agreeing with Ellen White: "The Catholic Church has never given up the hope to REESTABLISH, [she must have once has it, and lost it] the medieval UNION OF CHURCH AN D STATE with a GLOBAL STATE AND A GLOBAL THEOCRACY, as its ultimate goal. The ROMAN CHURCH/STATE is a hybrid- a monster of ecclesiastical and political power. It's political thought is totalitarian, and whenever it has had the opportunity to apply its principles the result has been BLOODY REPRESSION.
IF, during the last 30 plus years it has softened its assertion of supreme and irresponsible power, and has murdered fewer people than before,m such changes in behavior are not due to a change in its ideas, but to a CHANGE IN ITS CIRCUMSTANCES. THE ROMAN CHURCH-STATE IN THE 20TH CENTURY IS STILL AN INSTITUTION RECOVERING FROM HER MORTAL WOUND. If, and when it REGAINS its full power and authority , it will impose a regime more sinister than any the planet has yet seen" John W. Robbins, "Ecclesiastical Megalomania. p. 195.
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However....... Revelation 13:3-4 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"
Yes, this action is as of 2019, still future, these verses show that this United States of America has a Biblical role to play...
Revelation 13:11-12 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."
NOTE (JB): Please re-read Daniel, and learn that God the Creator {John 1:1-3,14.}foretold Dan.7 the earthly kingdoms from Babylon to Medo-Persia, to Greece under A.The Great, to Pagan Rome, to Papal Rome, as the steady march from East to West.
Where the Papal Rome as The Little Horn, CAME UP in a SEA OF PEOPLE, the USA came up out of the earth { low population] BUT it was by the power of the U.S. for all earth to worship the Beast whose wound by this act is now fully healed. and She SHALL again exercise the power of the sword that has has used for her 1260 years of absolute rule.."Believe as we say or die" is not an ISIS invention! Rome used for centuries, ask the Vandals, The Visigoths, and, The Lombards as they were "Pulled Up By The Roots," [Daniel 7:8 } between 475 and 538AD, when she took full control over church and state, via Excommunication threats!
I n the days of the apostle Paul, the civil power of Rome was restraining the man of sin but in 538, AD, the restraint was 'taken out of the way'. However, Paul did not explain that the civil powers of the world would restrain the Papacy once more in 1798 AD, only to release her once again near the end of history (1929 AD]
THE TWO STAGES OF THE MAN OF SIN.
Ellen White,in full accord with the Book of Revelations of Jesus Christ, explained the two stages of the 'man of sin': "The influence of Rome in the countries that once acknowledged her Dominion {Meaning a King and his domain] is still far from being destroyed and prophecy foretell a RESTORATION of her power. 'I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed; and all the world wondered after the beast." Great Controversy P. 579, and
Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."
"When our nation [United States of America] shall so abjure {do away with} the principles of its government as to enact a Sunday Law; Protestantism will in this act join hands with popery: it will be nothing else that GIVING LIFE to the tyranny which has so long been eagerly watching its opportunity to SPRING AGAIN into active despotism." Testimonies to the Church, vol 5,p.712 {E.G.White estate.com}
Sings of the Times June 12, 1893... "Protestants will throw their whole influence and strength on the side of the Papacy [ Church of England is now fully Catholic,as have most other earthly religions rushed home to "Mother Church" , Ecumenical movements, truth & error mixed into a religious stew!] by a national act enforcing the flash Sabbath of Sunday worships thus giving LIFE & VIGOR back again to the corrupt faith of Rome, Reviving her tyranny and oppression of conscience. Then it will be time for God to work in His mighty power for the vindication of truth "
Revelation 14:6-11 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
NOTE (JB): FOREVER TORMENT? NO! For the wicked to be able to be punished eternally, MUST mean that God gives willing sinners eternal life! Death and sin are the last two enemies taken away, forever! Punishments shall be swift, BUT the RESULTS shall be forever.Biblical Illiteracy is running rampant since Evolution has been taught as truthful science.Its all nonsense, fabricated and upheld by atheists!
The BIG BANG ? Nothing came together with nothing and that caused the Big Bang??????? LIFE? Well that came to be from dirt and time! Believe it? Then I have an deal for Y O U ! Ocean Beachfront property in Nebraska, really cheap!
Notably. secular Philosopher AYN RAND, who wrote in 1067 agreeing with Ellen White: "The Catholic Church has never given up the hope to REESTABLISH, [she must have once has it, and lost it] the medieval UNION OF CHURCH AN D STATE with a GLOBAL STATE AND A GLOBAL THEOCRACY, as its ultimate goal. The ROMAN CHURCH/STATE is a hybrid- a monster of ecclesiastical and political power. It's political thought is totalitarian, and whenever it has had the opportunity to apply its principles the result has been BLOODY REPRESSION.
IF, during the last 30 plus years it has softened its assertion of supreme and irresponsible power, and has murdered fewer people than before,m such changes in behavior are not due to a change in its ideas, but to a CHANGE IN ITS CIRCUMSTANCES. THE ROMAN CHURCH-STATE IN THE 20TH CENTURY IS STILL AN INSTITUTION RECOVERING FROM HER MORTAL WOUND. If, and when it REGAINS its full power and authority , it will impose a regime more sinister than any the planet has yet seen" John W. Robbins, "Ecclesiastical Megalomania. p. 195.
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Thursday, June 6, 2019
REFLECTIONS ON THE PAPAL ANTICHRIST. STEPHEN BHOR,Secrets Unsealed. Part 1of 4
My many thanks to Pastor Bhor, for his research on this topic. John B.
Note(JB): All of humanity are Children of God and all deserve to be treated as such. However this is NOT, a derogatory against the people within this church system, but it is against the System itself, and the leadership, down through time, who know better but are spoken of in .... 2 Thessalonians 2.. Christ shall render His judgments, not men.
The question that confronts us at this point it this: HOW and WHEN was the restrainer 'taken out of the way'? What or who removed the man of sin's chains so that he could come forth from hiding and fully reveal himself? We find the answer in the Books of Daniel and Revelation and in human history. [ Read this in 2 Thessalonians 2.]
A careful examination of Paul's prophecy indicates that in the forefront of his mind was the prophecy of the Little Horn in Daniel 7:23-24.. In fact, virtually all bible scholars agree that the man of sin and the Little Horn are symbolic of the Antichrist.
Note(JB): 1Jn 2:18. 1J n. 2:22. 1Jn. 4:3 and 2Jn. 1:7 all use the word Antichristos, as the opponent of Christ. Most scholars today tend to use the word INSTEAD OF CHRIST. YOU'LL LEARN LATTER BY THEIR OWN WORDS OF THE WHY.
Daniel 7 describes in chronological sequence the rise and fall of earthly kingdoms from the time of Daniel until the year 1798 AD.as follows....
Kingdom time King Metal man.. from dream
From Evangelical Christendom, January 1, 1895 P.15 [ Pub. i n London bt J.S. Phillips] P{ope Pius 10th, said this, " The Pope is not simply the representative of Jesus Christ. On the contrary he is Jesus Christ, under the veil of flesh"
"Does the Pope speak? It is.....Jesus Christ who is speaking. Hence, when anyone speaks of the Pope, it is not necessary to examine but to obey"
Acts 5:29 "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."
Jesus Christ walked upon the water, and healed the sick and raised the dead, has any Pope done this?
Daniel 7:25 "........ and THINK to change times and laws........"
Genesis 1 shows clearly that God set the days from SUNSET to Sunset as the 24 hour day but Pope Gregory 13th {The Great..but at what"] changed this from that to our current Mid-night to midnight, as our 24 hour day. PLUS.. Read Exodus 20:7-11 about the Sabbath Worship of the 7TH DAY, look at most calendars and know which is the Seventh day! Year =earth's evolution of the sun,
Month = lunar cycle, day = one earthly spin cycle o n its axis 24 hours, but where did the 7 day weekly cycle come to us?
Genesis 2:1-3 "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."\
SANCTIFIED IT: What did God sanctify but the seventh day Sabbath, now can man, or men make a day holy? NO! Only God is able. Yet do not most churches then obey the Roman Popes for Sunday, the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, TO WORSHIP thus obeying ,am rather than God?????
Luke 4:16 " And he [who is this He..but Jesus?]had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read."
How many of you, think that God did not know this Sabbath change by men,A ND THAT it WAS COMING??
Mark 7:9 "And he unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."
Anyone who has even read both Daniel and Revelation, with prayers asking for wisdom to understand, will learn that near the end of flesh humanity, there will be only two camps. the sheep and the goats, the sheep are those who follow and believe i n Jesus Christ, the goats are those who believe in human laws. Which camp have Y O U chosen.
PAUL'S CRYPTIC LANGUAGE.
The church fathers both before and after the Council of Nicaea (325AD) were virtually unanimous that the "RESTRAINER" of 2 Thessalonians 2:6
2 Thessalonians 2:6 " And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time."
This speaks the what the restrainer/withholder.[ The Roman Empire].In the next verse...
2 Thessalonians 2:7 "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
This speaks to the WHO,. {The Roman Emperors} using the masculine article HOkate`chon in Vs 7.The neuter article TOkate`chon referring to the Roman Empire.. InVs 6 used the masculine article referring to who as the Roman Emperors as masculine article for who as HOkate`chon.
Obviously, as Paul was subject to Roman Law, he could not in reality write that the Roman Empire would soon fall away!, and not be open to a charge of sedition.
SADLY, EVANGELICALS...
Who believe in the Rapture of the church BEFORE the tribulation erroneously identify the restrainer as the Holy Spirit, Whom God will remove from the earth before the tribulation. This understanding is incorrect because God did not Remove the restraint of the Holy Spirit from the earth when the Papacy first arose to power in the sixth century. It is clear that Paul could not Identify the "Restrainer" openly and he did not need to, because the Thessalonians knew who the restrainer was, the Pagan Roman Empire.
Cardinal Manning, also described THE MANNER in which the Roman Pontiff originally rose to civil power in the Roman Empire due to the barbarian incursion into the Empire." Now the abandonment of Rome was the LIBERATION of the Pontiffs. Whatsoever compliance may have yielded, the whole previous relation, anomalous, and annulled again and again by the vices an d outrages of the emperors, was finally dissolved by a HIGHER POWER. the Providence of God permitted a successions of irruptions.......
This language Manning used is very significant. He wrote that the fall of the Roman Empire led to the LIBERATION of the Roman Pontiff. Thus it was the old Roman Empire's Emperors that was the RESTRAINER!
TERTULLIAN (160- 240 ad)
2 Thessalonians 2:7 " For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
Iniquity, mean s lawlessness regarding the Ten Commandments, thus this lawless power was already working at lawlessness. The power that is not LETTING, him ( the worker of iniquity) to do as he will So Tertullian wrote: "What obstacle is there, but the Roman Empire, , the falling away, by being scattered into the Ten Kingdoms, shall then introduce Antichrist, upon its own ruins?" And then shall the wicked one be revealed." "On the Resurrection of the Flesh" Chap 24. ANTE-NICENE FATHERS. vol. iii p.56
CHRYSOSTOM (DIED 407AD ) Ambrose (337-397 AD) Lantantius (240-320) agreed as did Jerome (347- 420 AD)
When the Roman Empire, is taken out of the way, then he [ The Antichrist] shall come. As long as the fear of this Empire lasts, no one will willingly exalt himself, but, when it is dissolved, he will attack the anachary, and endeavour to seize upon the government of both man and God. Homily o n 2 Thessalonians. 'Nicene and Post-Nicene. vol XIII.p389 {New York Charles Scribner's And Sons . 1905.
I N HIS TIME:
The apostle Paul continued his line of thought:
2 Thessalonians 2:6 " And now ye know what withholdeth [ blocks, strains] that he might be revealed in his time."
REVEALED IN HIS TIME....must mean that God has set a specific time frame for this event. Yet we must again, link the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians and Daniel 7:25 where in we are told that there was a specific time for this Little Horn {horn indicated earthly power) to rise and fall., that is time, times and the dividing of time,' Revelation 13:5, refers to this same period as 42 month and Revelation 12:15 as 1260 days.{set on as the Hebrew's year as 360 24 hr days.)
NOTE (JB):Daniel 9:25 the order to rebuild came from Ezra 7::11+ and the King Artaxerxes in 457 B.C. and it is this date that must be used as starting date, for Daniel 2300 years of prophecy, this ended in the year of 1843 A.D.It accurately gave, the beginning od Christ's ministry post baptism and His death 3.5 years {one half week later 3,5 days/years.from Ezekiel 4:6 and Numbers 1`4:34)
Find this also in the book "The Great Controversy, by E.R. White, P. 356. by the way this books lst chapters give a n outline of the the events found in Revelations of Jesus Christ. By the way, few even teach from this Bible's last Book, but look...
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Revelation 1:3 " Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
Many men say, it's not for our understanding, other say they totally refuse to teach from it, so why did God cause John to write it and please explain the above highlighted verse!
THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY.
2 Thessalonians 2:7 " For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY WAS already at work in the days of Paul. The word 'Iniquity' is identical word that is translated 'transgression of the law' as used in 1 John 3:4. The 'man of sin' would teach his followers to transgress the law. As is well known, the papacy openly violates the Second Commandment that forbids the making and bowing before idols and claims that God's DAY OF rest IS NOW ON Sunday, THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK IN PLACE OF GOD'S SEVENTH-DAY SABBATH ON FRIDAY'S SUNSET TO SATURDAY'S SUNSET! (SPLITTING THE 10-TH INTO 2 PARTS! yet THEIR DOUAY Bible SHOWS THE TRUTH, proving few even read it?
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Note(JB): All of humanity are Children of God and all deserve to be treated as such. However this is NOT, a derogatory against the people within this church system, but it is against the System itself, and the leadership, down through time, who know better but are spoken of in .... 2 Thessalonians 2.. Christ shall render His judgments, not men.
The question that confronts us at this point it this: HOW and WHEN was the restrainer 'taken out of the way'? What or who removed the man of sin's chains so that he could come forth from hiding and fully reveal himself? We find the answer in the Books of Daniel and Revelation and in human history. [ Read this in 2 Thessalonians 2.]
A careful examination of Paul's prophecy indicates that in the forefront of his mind was the prophecy of the Little Horn in Daniel 7:23-24.. In fact, virtually all bible scholars agree that the man of sin and the Little Horn are symbolic of the Antichrist.
Note(JB): 1Jn 2:18. 1J n. 2:22. 1Jn. 4:3 and 2Jn. 1:7 all use the word Antichristos, as the opponent of Christ. Most scholars today tend to use the word INSTEAD OF CHRIST. YOU'LL LEARN LATTER BY THEIR OWN WORDS OF THE WHY.
Daniel 7 describes in chronological sequence the rise and fall of earthly kingdoms from the time of Daniel until the year 1798 AD.as follows....
Kingdom time King Metal man.. from dream
- The Lion:Babylon (605-539 BC.) king Nebuchadnezzar Head of Gold
- The Bear:Medo-Persia (539-331 BC.) Arms-chest of silver
- The Leopard: Greece. (331- 168 BC. A. the Great Belly/thighs of Bronze.
- The Dragon Pagan Rome 9168- 476 AD. Legs of iron
- The Ten Horns on the Dragon Feet of iron and of clay
- Little Horn from the Dragon's head: Papal Rome 9538-1798 AD the Ten Toes.
NOTE(JB): The reason the Bible refers to those kingdoms under the symbols of beasts, is that the king/leader, ruled both the religious and the civil as one unit.Violating this..Separation of church and State.
Mark 12:17 " And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him."
Notice that Daniel 7:23,24 describes three consecutive stages of the fourth beast (the dragon) "Thus he said: the fourth beast shall be a {1} fourth kingdom ,[the Roman Empire] on earth, which shall be different from all other kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, trample it and break it in pieces,
{24} The {2} Ten Horns, are ten kings who shall arise from this kingdom {the divided Roman Empire} and {#} another shall rise after them {Papal Rome} :HE shall be different from the first ones, and shall subdue three kings." Daniel 7: 23-24.
According to these verses, after a time the Roman Empire would break apart into the Ten Kingdoms and then the little horn or the Man of Sin would rise to power from this divided kingdom.
Summarizing the three stages of the dragon beast:
- The Dragon The Pagan Roman Empire (Paul lived during this period)
- The Ten Horns The Roman Empire Divided (Future to Paul's day)
- The Little Horn The Divided Roman Empire, ruled by the Little Horn (Paul's future).
The apostle Paul was living during the period of the Roman (Pagan) Empire before the emergence of the Ten Horns and of the Little Horn. This means that the ittle horn would would rise to power sometime after the year 476 AD when the Empire fell apart into t4en kingdoms.
The Book of Revelations describes this transfer of power from the Ten Horned Roman Empire to the papacy:
Revelation 13:2 And the beast [the papacy] which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon [ the Roman Empire] gave him [the papacy] his power, and his seat, and great authority.
NOTE(JB): History notes that when the last Emperor vacated his seat, the Bishop of Rome's church moved to occupy it, taking the place of the Caesars! Date ? 538 AD.
In her book, "The Great Controversy" p.54 she, Ellen White, wrote this: "In the sixth century {538 AD] the papacy had become firmly established. Its seat of power was fixed in the Imperial City and the Bishop of Rome was declared to be the head over the entire church. Paganism had given place to the papacy. The dragon had given to the beast 'his power, and his seat and great authority'.
Revelation 13:2 "And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority
And, now began, the 1260 years of papal oppression foretold in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation. Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5-7.
Daniel 7:25 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."
Revelation 13:5-7 "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." [The Great Controversy P. 54. for further study.]
CYRIL of Jerusalem: (318-386 AD.) he lived just before the break-up of the Pagan Roman Empire, understood very well the link between Daniel 7 and @ Thessalonians 2. "But this afor-said Antichrist is to come when the (1) times of the Roman Empire shall be fulfilled, and the end of the world is drawing near. There shall rise up together (2) ten kings of the Romans, reigning in different parts, perhaps, but all at the same time and,after those, an eleventh, the Antichrist, who by his magical craft shall seize upon the Roman Power;and the kings who reigned before him, "three he shall humble" and, the remaining seven he shall keep in subjection to himself."
'Catechetical Lectures' section 15, on 11 Thessalonians 2:4 . [Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, vol,VII, p.108 {New York: The Christian Literature Company, 1895 ]
Carl Conrad Eckhadt's "The Papacy and World Affairs, [Chicago 'The University of Chicago Press, 1937, p.1
In this he described the three (3) stages of Rome;: "Under the Roman Empire {stage #1, the dragon] the popes had no temporal powers. But when the Roman Empire had disintegrated [Stage #2 the ten horns ] and its place had been taken by a number of rude, barbarous kingdoms, the Roman Catholic Church [stage # 3 as the Little Horn-Daniel 7] not only became independent of the states in religious affairs but DOMINATED SECULAR AFFAIRS AS WELL."
THE REMOVAL OF THE RESTRAINER.
HOWEVER, THE QUESTION THAT REMAINS UNANSWERED IS HOW THE RESTRAINT UPON THE 'MAN OF SIN' "WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY"
2 Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"
Human history has the answer: In the year of 330 AD, Emperor Constantine moved the seat of Government of the Roman Empire to his new capital Constantinople {Istanbul today] for the Eastern Roman Empire, leaving the Western parts, politically, and militarily, weakened., by series of weak Emperors, the last being Romulas Augustus was the last in 476 AD.
All during the late fourth and early fifth, centuries, hordes of barbarian tribes, from the north invaded and carved up the Roman Empire west.
Paul Hutchinson & Winnifred E. Garrison, '20 Centuries of Christianity: A concise History First Edition p.93 1959, Harcourt,Brace & world Inc. New York please find this: " When the insignificant Romulas Augustus was deposed 94760 there was no longer eve n a titular emperor."
Note(JB) That why history admits that the Popes slid into the seat of the Emperors, and ruled as they used to rule total and complete, until 1798 and Berthier leading a French army arrested the then pope, and removed its secular powers, until Mussolini restored it to the Vatican's 114 Acre nation again in 1929!
As history proves, when Constantine abandonment of the Western Empire this allowed the barianians to their incursions into the West Empire and leaving turned upside down, ands caused the civil society to fall into disarray, allowing the Bishop of Rome to claim the an emperor's title! Thus bringing some semblance of order to the old empire.
The results was that the Bishop of Roman church was NOT ONLY the Spiritual leader but he also became the TEMPORAL Ruler of the state. THUS THE ROMAN EMPIRE WAS 'taken out of the way' to give way to the papacy.
NOW WE LOOK AT HOW THIS IS SHOWN BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
The Roman Catholic historian. James P. Conroy, explains it this way: Long ages ago, when Rome through the neglect of the Western Emperors was left to the mercy of the barbarous hordes, the Romans turned to the one figure for aid and protection, and asked him to rule them; and thus, in this simple manner the best title of all, to to Kingly Right, commenced the Temporal Sovereignty of the popes, and Meekly {?? JB has there ever been a meek pope?} stepping to the throne of Caesar, the vicar of Christ took up the scepter [and crown] to which the Kings of Europe were to bow in reverence through so many ages." American Quarterly Catholic Review, April 1911.
CARDINAL EDWARD MANNING [ Formerly the titular head of the Anglican church of England, now serves the pope!] who converted the Church of England to the Roman Catholic Faith explaining the importance of Constantine's transfer of the Roam Empire to the east. "But from that hour, when Constantine, in the language of Roman law ' Deo juente,' 'by the law of God', TRANSLATED the seat of power to Constantinople, from moment there never reigned in Rome, a temporal prince to whom the Bishops of Rome owed a permanent allegiance" "The Temporal Power of the Vicar of Jesus Christ, second edition London, Burns & Lambert,pp 11,12.
Cardinal Manning , also described The Manner in which the Roman Pontiff originally rose to civil power in the Roman Empire due to the barbarian incursion in to the Empire: "Now the abandonment of Rome was the Liberation, of the pontiffs. Whatsoever claims to obedience the emperors may have made, an d whatsoever compliance the pontiffs may have yielded, the whole previous relation, anomalous, and annulled again and again by the vices and outrages of the emperors, was finally dissolved by a Higher Power, . The providence of God permitted a succession of irruptions, Gothic, Lombard { Southern Italians] and Hungarian, to desolate Italy, and to efface from every remnant of the empire. The pontiffs found themselves Alone, the sole fountains of order, peace,law, and safety. And from that hour of this Providential Liberation, when, by the DIVINE INTERVENTION, the ... chains fell off, from the hands of the successors of ST.Peter, as once before from his own, no sovereign has ever reigned in Rome except the Vicar of Jesus Christ."
The Temporal Power of the Vicar of Jesus Christ, Preface ,pp xxviii, xxxix. London Burns & Lambert, 1862.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."
NOTE(JB): All one needs to do is Google Inquisition, or Eric Phelps "Vatican Assassins, or Foxxes' "Book of Martyrs." as well as many other historians writing about the Dark or the Middle ages of Europe, and the millions that Rome's "Believe as I say or die" dogma, ruled for 1260 years just as Daniel foretold 500 years before Christ!
Please know.... Catholic dogma declares that the Writings of the Church Fathers is most important, the Holy Bible is but Secondary 5to their faith, and here's the why.....
"Apostolic Digest , Book 5 "The Book of Obedience" Pope Boniface 13th ... "We declare and pronounce, that it is absolutely necessary, for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."
YOU must choose believe God or man? {by the way has man ever told a lie?)
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
CYRIL of Jerusalem: (318-386 AD.) he lived just before the break-up of the Pagan Roman Empire, understood very well the link between Daniel 7 and @ Thessalonians 2. "But this afor-said Antichrist is to come when the (1) times of the Roman Empire shall be fulfilled, and the end of the world is drawing near. There shall rise up together (2) ten kings of the Romans, reigning in different parts, perhaps, but all at the same time and,after those, an eleventh, the Antichrist, who by his magical craft shall seize upon the Roman Power;and the kings who reigned before him, "three he shall humble" and, the remaining seven he shall keep in subjection to himself."
'Catechetical Lectures' section 15, on 11 Thessalonians 2:4 . [Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, vol,VII, p.108 {New York: The Christian Literature Company, 1895 ]
Carl Conrad Eckhadt's "The Papacy and World Affairs, [Chicago 'The University of Chicago Press, 1937, p.1
In this he described the three (3) stages of Rome;: "Under the Roman Empire {stage #1, the dragon] the popes had no temporal powers. But when the Roman Empire had disintegrated [Stage #2 the ten horns ] and its place had been taken by a number of rude, barbarous kingdoms, the Roman Catholic Church [stage # 3 as the Little Horn-Daniel 7] not only became independent of the states in religious affairs but DOMINATED SECULAR AFFAIRS AS WELL."
THE REMOVAL OF THE RESTRAINER.
HOWEVER, THE QUESTION THAT REMAINS UNANSWERED IS HOW THE RESTRAINT UPON THE 'MAN OF SIN' "WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY"
2 Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"
Human history has the answer: In the year of 330 AD, Emperor Constantine moved the seat of Government of the Roman Empire to his new capital Constantinople {Istanbul today] for the Eastern Roman Empire, leaving the Western parts, politically, and militarily, weakened., by series of weak Emperors, the last being Romulas Augustus was the last in 476 AD.
All during the late fourth and early fifth, centuries, hordes of barbarian tribes, from the north invaded and carved up the Roman Empire west.
Paul Hutchinson & Winnifred E. Garrison, '20 Centuries of Christianity: A concise History First Edition p.93 1959, Harcourt,Brace & world Inc. New York please find this: " When the insignificant Romulas Augustus was deposed 94760 there was no longer eve n a titular emperor."
Note(JB) That why history admits that the Popes slid into the seat of the Emperors, and ruled as they used to rule total and complete, until 1798 and Berthier leading a French army arrested the then pope, and removed its secular powers, until Mussolini restored it to the Vatican's 114 Acre nation again in 1929!
As history proves, when Constantine abandonment of the Western Empire this allowed the barianians to their incursions into the West Empire and leaving turned upside down, ands caused the civil society to fall into disarray, allowing the Bishop of Rome to claim the an emperor's title! Thus bringing some semblance of order to the old empire.
The results was that the Bishop of Roman church was NOT ONLY the Spiritual leader but he also became the TEMPORAL Ruler of the state. THUS THE ROMAN EMPIRE WAS 'taken out of the way' to give way to the papacy.
NOW WE LOOK AT HOW THIS IS SHOWN BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
The Roman Catholic historian. James P. Conroy, explains it this way: Long ages ago, when Rome through the neglect of the Western Emperors was left to the mercy of the barbarous hordes, the Romans turned to the one figure for aid and protection, and asked him to rule them; and thus, in this simple manner the best title of all, to to Kingly Right, commenced the Temporal Sovereignty of the popes, and Meekly {?? JB has there ever been a meek pope?} stepping to the throne of Caesar, the vicar of Christ took up the scepter [and crown] to which the Kings of Europe were to bow in reverence through so many ages." American Quarterly Catholic Review, April 1911.
CARDINAL EDWARD MANNING [ Formerly the titular head of the Anglican church of England, now serves the pope!] who converted the Church of England to the Roman Catholic Faith explaining the importance of Constantine's transfer of the Roam Empire to the east. "But from that hour, when Constantine, in the language of Roman law ' Deo juente,' 'by the law of God', TRANSLATED the seat of power to Constantinople, from moment there never reigned in Rome, a temporal prince to whom the Bishops of Rome owed a permanent allegiance" "The Temporal Power of the Vicar of Jesus Christ, second edition London, Burns & Lambert,pp 11,12.
Cardinal Manning , also described The Manner in which the Roman Pontiff originally rose to civil power in the Roman Empire due to the barbarian incursion in to the Empire: "Now the abandonment of Rome was the Liberation, of the pontiffs. Whatsoever claims to obedience the emperors may have made, an d whatsoever compliance the pontiffs may have yielded, the whole previous relation, anomalous, and annulled again and again by the vices and outrages of the emperors, was finally dissolved by a Higher Power, . The providence of God permitted a succession of irruptions, Gothic, Lombard { Southern Italians] and Hungarian, to desolate Italy, and to efface from every remnant of the empire. The pontiffs found themselves Alone, the sole fountains of order, peace,law, and safety. And from that hour of this Providential Liberation, when, by the DIVINE INTERVENTION, the ... chains fell off, from the hands of the successors of ST.Peter, as once before from his own, no sovereign has ever reigned in Rome except the Vicar of Jesus Christ."
The Temporal Power of the Vicar of Jesus Christ, Preface ,pp xxviii, xxxix. London Burns & Lambert, 1862.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."
NOTE(JB): All one needs to do is Google Inquisition, or Eric Phelps "Vatican Assassins, or Foxxes' "Book of Martyrs." as well as many other historians writing about the Dark or the Middle ages of Europe, and the millions that Rome's "Believe as I say or die" dogma, ruled for 1260 years just as Daniel foretold 500 years before Christ!
Please know.... Catholic dogma declares that the Writings of the Church Fathers is most important, the Holy Bible is but Secondary 5to their faith, and here's the why.....
"Apostolic Digest , Book 5 "The Book of Obedience" Pope Boniface 13th ... "We declare and pronounce, that it is absolutely necessary, for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."
YOU must choose believe God or man? {by the way has man ever told a lie?)
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
From Evangelical Christendom, January 1, 1895 P.15 [ Pub. i n London bt J.S. Phillips] P{ope Pius 10th, said this, " The Pope is not simply the representative of Jesus Christ. On the contrary he is Jesus Christ, under the veil of flesh"
"Does the Pope speak? It is.....Jesus Christ who is speaking. Hence, when anyone speaks of the Pope, it is not necessary to examine but to obey"
Acts 5:29 "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."
Jesus Christ walked upon the water, and healed the sick and raised the dead, has any Pope done this?
Daniel 7:25 "........ and THINK to change times and laws........"
Genesis 1 shows clearly that God set the days from SUNSET to Sunset as the 24 hour day but Pope Gregory 13th {The Great..but at what"] changed this from that to our current Mid-night to midnight, as our 24 hour day. PLUS.. Read Exodus 20:7-11 about the Sabbath Worship of the 7TH DAY, look at most calendars and know which is the Seventh day! Year =earth's evolution of the sun,
Month = lunar cycle, day = one earthly spin cycle o n its axis 24 hours, but where did the 7 day weekly cycle come to us?
Genesis 2:1-3 "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."\
SANCTIFIED IT: What did God sanctify but the seventh day Sabbath, now can man, or men make a day holy? NO! Only God is able. Yet do not most churches then obey the Roman Popes for Sunday, the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, TO WORSHIP thus obeying ,am rather than God?????
Luke 4:16 " And he [who is this He..but Jesus?]had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read."
How many of you, think that God did not know this Sabbath change by men,A ND THAT it WAS COMING??
Mark 7:9 "And he unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."
Anyone who has even read both Daniel and Revelation, with prayers asking for wisdom to understand, will learn that near the end of flesh humanity, there will be only two camps. the sheep and the goats, the sheep are those who follow and believe i n Jesus Christ, the goats are those who believe in human laws. Which camp have Y O U chosen.
PAUL'S CRYPTIC LANGUAGE.
The church fathers both before and after the Council of Nicaea (325AD) were virtually unanimous that the "RESTRAINER" of 2 Thessalonians 2:6
2 Thessalonians 2:6 " And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time."
This speaks the what the restrainer/withholder.[ The Roman Empire].In the next verse...
2 Thessalonians 2:7 "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
This speaks to the WHO,. {The Roman Emperors} using the masculine article HOkate`chon in Vs 7.The neuter article TOkate`chon referring to the Roman Empire.. InVs 6 used the masculine article referring to who as the Roman Emperors as masculine article for who as HOkate`chon.
Obviously, as Paul was subject to Roman Law, he could not in reality write that the Roman Empire would soon fall away!, and not be open to a charge of sedition.
SADLY, EVANGELICALS...
Who believe in the Rapture of the church BEFORE the tribulation erroneously identify the restrainer as the Holy Spirit, Whom God will remove from the earth before the tribulation. This understanding is incorrect because God did not Remove the restraint of the Holy Spirit from the earth when the Papacy first arose to power in the sixth century. It is clear that Paul could not Identify the "Restrainer" openly and he did not need to, because the Thessalonians knew who the restrainer was, the Pagan Roman Empire.
Cardinal Manning, also described THE MANNER in which the Roman Pontiff originally rose to civil power in the Roman Empire due to the barbarian incursion into the Empire." Now the abandonment of Rome was the LIBERATION of the Pontiffs. Whatsoever compliance may have yielded, the whole previous relation, anomalous, and annulled again and again by the vices an d outrages of the emperors, was finally dissolved by a HIGHER POWER. the Providence of God permitted a successions of irruptions.......
This language Manning used is very significant. He wrote that the fall of the Roman Empire led to the LIBERATION of the Roman Pontiff. Thus it was the old Roman Empire's Emperors that was the RESTRAINER!
TERTULLIAN (160- 240 ad)
2 Thessalonians 2:7 " For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
Iniquity, mean s lawlessness regarding the Ten Commandments, thus this lawless power was already working at lawlessness. The power that is not LETTING, him ( the worker of iniquity) to do as he will So Tertullian wrote: "What obstacle is there, but the Roman Empire, , the falling away, by being scattered into the Ten Kingdoms, shall then introduce Antichrist, upon its own ruins?" And then shall the wicked one be revealed." "On the Resurrection of the Flesh" Chap 24. ANTE-NICENE FATHERS. vol. iii p.56
CHRYSOSTOM (DIED 407AD ) Ambrose (337-397 AD) Lantantius (240-320) agreed as did Jerome (347- 420 AD)
When the Roman Empire, is taken out of the way, then he [ The Antichrist] shall come. As long as the fear of this Empire lasts, no one will willingly exalt himself, but, when it is dissolved, he will attack the anachary, and endeavour to seize upon the government of both man and God. Homily o n 2 Thessalonians. 'Nicene and Post-Nicene. vol XIII.p389 {New York Charles Scribner's And Sons . 1905.
I N HIS TIME:
The apostle Paul continued his line of thought:
2 Thessalonians 2:6 " And now ye know what withholdeth [ blocks, strains] that he might be revealed in his time."
REVEALED IN HIS TIME....must mean that God has set a specific time frame for this event. Yet we must again, link the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians and Daniel 7:25 where in we are told that there was a specific time for this Little Horn {horn indicated earthly power) to rise and fall., that is time, times and the dividing of time,' Revelation 13:5, refers to this same period as 42 month and Revelation 12:15 as 1260 days.{set on as the Hebrew's year as 360 24 hr days.)
NOTE (JB):Daniel 9:25 the order to rebuild came from Ezra 7::11+ and the King Artaxerxes in 457 B.C. and it is this date that must be used as starting date, for Daniel 2300 years of prophecy, this ended in the year of 1843 A.D.It accurately gave, the beginning od Christ's ministry post baptism and His death 3.5 years {one half week later 3,5 days/years.from Ezekiel 4:6 and Numbers 1`4:34)
Find this also in the book "The Great Controversy, by E.R. White, P. 356. by the way this books lst chapters give a n outline of the the events found in Revelations of Jesus Christ. By the way, few even teach from this Bible's last Book, but look...
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Revelation 1:3 " Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
Many men say, it's not for our understanding, other say they totally refuse to teach from it, so why did God cause John to write it and please explain the above highlighted verse!
THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY.
2 Thessalonians 2:7 " For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY WAS already at work in the days of Paul. The word 'Iniquity' is identical word that is translated 'transgression of the law' as used in 1 John 3:4. The 'man of sin' would teach his followers to transgress the law. As is well known, the papacy openly violates the Second Commandment that forbids the making and bowing before idols and claims that God's DAY OF rest IS NOW ON Sunday, THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK IN PLACE OF GOD'S SEVENTH-DAY SABBATH ON FRIDAY'S SUNSET TO SATURDAY'S SUNSET! (SPLITTING THE 10-TH INTO 2 PARTS! yet THEIR DOUAY Bible SHOWS THE TRUTH, proving few even read it?
This ends PART 1.
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Thursday, May 16, 2019
A Look Back To 1930. "ONCE UPON A TIME" LIBERTY MAGAZINE JAN/FEB 2018. B.H. HARTOGENIS
My many thanks to both the author and this magazine. (John B)
SUB-TITLE: " Denial of Equal Rights to Religious Minorities and Nonbelievers in the United States."
EDITORIAL NOTE: This part was part of an article that first appeared in the Yale Law Journal of March 1930, which clearly shows the diversity of law and conflict of judicial opinion on the subject of religion legislation, and the rights of minority sects before the law. It was reprinted in Liberty magazine third quarter ,1930, as a service to readers that and is reprinted now in 2018 as a reminder of the legal challenges that still persist.
Note (JB): Please allow me to insert this Bible passage:: John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Is this not the why the people of ISIS, kill,none believers? Is this not the reasoning that Rome applied during the her reign of terror during the 1260 years she ruled supreme? YES! Yet today all the world's "Religions" are rushing to her, to kiss the Papal ring in fealty and loyalty, under the name of Ecumenical Union, Even to obeying her Sunday law, for which they admit there is no Scriptural warrant for it!
This SECOND COMMANDMENT IS MISSING from all the Catechism books, [but is in their bible, showing few, if any, read it!]:
Deuteronomy 5:8-9 "Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,"
This Commandment is broken by 96% of Christendom:
Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."
GET IT??? THE SABBATH [REST UNTO] THE LORD. IT'S HIS HOLY DAY, HOW CAN ANY MAN, OR MEN, CHANGE GOD'S LAW? READ DANIEL 7 AND NOTE
vs. 25! THINKS TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS? THE 2ND AND THE 4TH, COMMANDMENTS, THEN SPLITTING THE 10TH INTO 2 PARTS! WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE FOOLING? NOW TO THE STORY....
EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW, for all mankind, is the ideal which seers and philosophers have looked forward for ages, is far from being attained even i n the United States,
despite of such slogans as the "Rights of Man," "Freedom of Religion, and of Conscience," "A Free State," "All Men Are Created Equal." The First and the Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution, and the like. The Revolutionary War,, so we are taught in school, separated church and state, but that meant merely, that the colonists were no longer subservient to the Church of England. For the purpose of putting an end to the arrogant "toleration" of religious minorities, by providing equal rights and religious freedom for all, it succeeded merely in giving all Christian sects equal rights before the law. Rights have consistently been denied other religious minorities. This is not merely a legal proposition; for in fact an invidious difference is being paid by the state to the miscalled "National Religion" of the majority, beyond a mere recognition thereof, a difference that entails and hardships in certain states to nonconformists and unbelievers alike, all under the color of law. Typical of this in equality was the disallowing and discrediting of testimony of unbelieving in the re3cent Gastonia trials in North Carolina.
The purpose of the present discussion is to show how religious beliefs of the dominant Christians in the United States are allowed effectively to control our moot questions or exotic dead-letter blue laws, but through laws that are actually in force, or if not enforced, still dangerous to civil rights of citizens because enforceable at will.
CHRISTIANITY PART OD OUR LAW.
Actual deference is accorded federally and in the states, generally, to Christianity, as; (1) a religious belief, in manner of offensives to opposing creedlists and nonbelievers: (2) a church established for such believers, i n some states; (3) a church supported by militantly evangelical laws, in a few states....
When Chancellor Ke3nt of New York said, "The people of this state, in common with the people of this country, profess the general doctrine of Christianity as a rule of their faith and practice." he meant "in due form of law." as it had been generally understood under Lord Coke's dictum that "Christianity is part and parcel of the Common Law, and not merely in recognition of the palpable fact that the majority wer3e Christians whose practises must be respected. For this dictum that those exotic beliefs were "Imposters", {mentioning the Muslims, then having more votaries in [believers] in, the world than Christianity}, and that such infidels had no rights before a court in a Christian land, which Americans were bound to respect. Worse than all, this opinion is a keynote, often cited to this day by appellate courts, i n deciding religious controversies. There is thus imposing on the religious minorities a subservience insulting to their patriotism.
Following a unanimous opinion of the Supreme Court [JB Sorry only Christ is the Supreme Judge] in Church of the Holy Trinity V. United States, i n 1992, Mr. Justice Brewer, in the Haverford Lectures in 1904, showed, with ample citations and authorities, that this is in fact a "Christian nation of Mr Justice Story in the Gerard College case as to Christianity: "". He approved it: "Its divine origin and truth are admitted." and for that reason "Christianity must be neither impugned nor repudiated."
Lord Coke's dictum, now disposed of as mere rhetoric and not law has been recognized in many decisions of courts, nicely discriminated in some few states, repudiated in others, but in several states pressed to its logical conclusion. Thus in Maryland to this very day,.according to its highest court of appeal:
"The Sabbath is emphatically the day of rest here is the Lord's day or the Christian Sunday.... Ours is a Christian community, and the day set apart as the day of rest is the day consecrated by the resurrection of our Savior..... And if the Christian religion is benefited and fostered by this day of rest, as it undoubtedly is, there is all the more reason for enforcement of the laws that help preserve it..
Note(JB): Sorry there's not one word about changing the Seventh-day Sabbath to the first day of the week, i n fact>>> Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
This is what Jesus asked us to do in remembrance and NOT His resurrection to be used as a reason to change the holy Sabbath days! Many a man and women, have changed the Bible's words to suit themselves! This is the how we now have 100's of denominations: the root meaning of this word is DENOMINATOR WE get this only by divisions,as the left-over number. Satan is the ever divider!
I n some states constitutional provisions and statues and bench-made law call for the observance of Christian Doctrine and dogma by its citizens. In so doing they deny citizens their inalienable rights and "Exclude, in whole or part, certain persons not belonging touch adopted religion from participating in public honors, trusts, emoluments, privileges, and immunities. Religious proscriptions are found in the following:
SUB-TITLE: " Denial of Equal Rights to Religious Minorities and Nonbelievers in the United States."
EDITORIAL NOTE: This part was part of an article that first appeared in the Yale Law Journal of March 1930, which clearly shows the diversity of law and conflict of judicial opinion on the subject of religion legislation, and the rights of minority sects before the law. It was reprinted in Liberty magazine third quarter ,1930, as a service to readers that and is reprinted now in 2018 as a reminder of the legal challenges that still persist.
Note (JB): Please allow me to insert this Bible passage:: John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Is this not the why the people of ISIS, kill,none believers? Is this not the reasoning that Rome applied during the her reign of terror during the 1260 years she ruled supreme? YES! Yet today all the world's "Religions" are rushing to her, to kiss the Papal ring in fealty and loyalty, under the name of Ecumenical Union, Even to obeying her Sunday law, for which they admit there is no Scriptural warrant for it!
This SECOND COMMANDMENT IS MISSING from all the Catechism books, [but is in their bible, showing few, if any, read it!]:
Deuteronomy 5:8-9 "Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,"
This Commandment is broken by 96% of Christendom:
Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."
GET IT??? THE SABBATH [REST UNTO] THE LORD. IT'S HIS HOLY DAY, HOW CAN ANY MAN, OR MEN, CHANGE GOD'S LAW? READ DANIEL 7 AND NOTE
vs. 25! THINKS TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS? THE 2ND AND THE 4TH, COMMANDMENTS, THEN SPLITTING THE 10TH INTO 2 PARTS! WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE FOOLING? NOW TO THE STORY....
EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW, for all mankind, is the ideal which seers and philosophers have looked forward for ages, is far from being attained even i n the United States,
despite of such slogans as the "Rights of Man," "Freedom of Religion, and of Conscience," "A Free State," "All Men Are Created Equal." The First and the Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution, and the like. The Revolutionary War,, so we are taught in school, separated church and state, but that meant merely, that the colonists were no longer subservient to the Church of England. For the purpose of putting an end to the arrogant "toleration" of religious minorities, by providing equal rights and religious freedom for all, it succeeded merely in giving all Christian sects equal rights before the law. Rights have consistently been denied other religious minorities. This is not merely a legal proposition; for in fact an invidious difference is being paid by the state to the miscalled "National Religion" of the majority, beyond a mere recognition thereof, a difference that entails and hardships in certain states to nonconformists and unbelievers alike, all under the color of law. Typical of this in equality was the disallowing and discrediting of testimony of unbelieving in the re3cent Gastonia trials in North Carolina.
The purpose of the present discussion is to show how religious beliefs of the dominant Christians in the United States are allowed effectively to control our moot questions or exotic dead-letter blue laws, but through laws that are actually in force, or if not enforced, still dangerous to civil rights of citizens because enforceable at will.
CHRISTIANITY PART OD OUR LAW.
Actual deference is accorded federally and in the states, generally, to Christianity, as; (1) a religious belief, in manner of offensives to opposing creedlists and nonbelievers: (2) a church established for such believers, i n some states; (3) a church supported by militantly evangelical laws, in a few states....
When Chancellor Ke3nt of New York said, "The people of this state, in common with the people of this country, profess the general doctrine of Christianity as a rule of their faith and practice." he meant "in due form of law." as it had been generally understood under Lord Coke's dictum that "Christianity is part and parcel of the Common Law, and not merely in recognition of the palpable fact that the majority wer3e Christians whose practises must be respected. For this dictum that those exotic beliefs were "Imposters", {mentioning the Muslims, then having more votaries in [believers] in, the world than Christianity}, and that such infidels had no rights before a court in a Christian land, which Americans were bound to respect. Worse than all, this opinion is a keynote, often cited to this day by appellate courts, i n deciding religious controversies. There is thus imposing on the religious minorities a subservience insulting to their patriotism.
Following a unanimous opinion of the Supreme Court [JB Sorry only Christ is the Supreme Judge] in Church of the Holy Trinity V. United States, i n 1992, Mr. Justice Brewer, in the Haverford Lectures in 1904, showed, with ample citations and authorities, that this is in fact a "Christian nation of Mr Justice Story in the Gerard College case as to Christianity: "". He approved it: "Its divine origin and truth are admitted." and for that reason "Christianity must be neither impugned nor repudiated."
Lord Coke's dictum, now disposed of as mere rhetoric and not law has been recognized in many decisions of courts, nicely discriminated in some few states, repudiated in others, but in several states pressed to its logical conclusion. Thus in Maryland to this very day,.according to its highest court of appeal:
"The Sabbath is emphatically the day of rest here is the Lord's day or the Christian Sunday.... Ours is a Christian community, and the day set apart as the day of rest is the day consecrated by the resurrection of our Savior..... And if the Christian religion is benefited and fostered by this day of rest, as it undoubtedly is, there is all the more reason for enforcement of the laws that help preserve it..
Note(JB): Sorry there's not one word about changing the Seventh-day Sabbath to the first day of the week, i n fact>>> Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
This is what Jesus asked us to do in remembrance and NOT His resurrection to be used as a reason to change the holy Sabbath days! Many a man and women, have changed the Bible's words to suit themselves! This is the how we now have 100's of denominations: the root meaning of this word is DENOMINATOR WE get this only by divisions,as the left-over number. Satan is the ever divider!
I n some states constitutional provisions and statues and bench-made law call for the observance of Christian Doctrine and dogma by its citizens. In so doing they deny citizens their inalienable rights and "Exclude, in whole or part, certain persons not belonging touch adopted religion from participating in public honors, trusts, emoluments, privileges, and immunities. Religious proscriptions are found in the following:
- Test of Office, being an oath on the faith of a Christian.:
- Marriage in the face of the church, as a condition precedent to validity.
- Blasphemy of the Savior and Holy Trinity..
At times the religious proscriptions amounting to persecution by our courts have been reported i n the Press, notably of Seventh-day Adventists, and Seventh day Baptists in 1893-1894 in Maryland, and again in Tennessee, Arkansas, and Kansas
And to cap the climax, Christianity is being militantly forced as a creed in several states which require under penalty, observance of the "Lord's Day", not as a day of rest, but religiously, and the r4eading and the t4eaching of the New Testament in public schools.. The following sectarian practises, moreover, are uniformly used by both federal and state authorities:
- "Year of the Lord", as used in official documents and attestments.
- Legislatures all ope n with prayers to the God of Christianity.
- Sunday Laws call for the no work thereon by government officers and employees.
- The days within which a veto must be expressed under the Federal Constitution and those of nearly all states are limited by the phrase, "Sunday excepted."
Considering the fact that the history of America's colonies shows that they were established to further Christianity, it is not remarkable that th4e newly constituted states began to establish Christianity during and immediately after the revolutionary War. In all the state constitutions there is mention of God, but in none of them is there a mention of Jesus Christ, or the Holy Trinity, and the duty to worship God. Yet it may be argued with Mr. Justice Brewer that, because of religious references in certain of these constitutions, especially to Christian beliefs and dogmas, and likewise in decisions of appellate courts, that reference is thereby made to God of the Christians.
By the Constitution of South Carolina of 1778, "The Christian Protestant religion was constituted and declared to be the established religion of the state." Under the constitution of Maryland of 1776, the legislature may in its own discretion lay a general and equal tax for the support of the Christian religion, The constitution of Massachusetts of 1780 was mandatory, requiring municipalities to make provision for the support of Protestant teachers of religion. In Vermont's constitution of 1793 and 1831 every denomination of Christians :"ought to observe the Lord's Day and keep up so me kind of religious worship.." By New Jersey's constitution of 1776, no Protestant inhabitant shall be denied the enjoyment of his civil rights. Both Connecticut (1818) and New Hampshire (1912) not only state that every denomination of Christians shall be equally under the protection of the law, but New Hampshire allows municipalities to to levy a tax to support Protestant Christian Schools, and Connecticut prescribes rules for Christian church membership. The Mississippi constitution prescribes that the Holy Bible must not be excluded from the public schools.
NOTE(JB): These so-called "Blue-Laws", are on the books., and generally not enforced today, and that's good thing, agree? Yet there shall come a time, (Revelation 13 and 18:4.) when this shall all became reality! Why? Prophecy has been 100% spot-on for about 95% of the total, what makes anyone think the last 5% will not happen? Please think men lie right, God can't! LIE!
Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
More liberally the constitutions of Nebraska and Ohio prescribe that laws shall be passed to protect every kind of religious worship. These religious discrimination's are in a different category from the generalizations of Virginia's constitution of 1902, where it stated that the moral duty of all is to practice Christian forbearance, love and charity, following Thomas Jefferson, who disbelieved in th3e New Testament's miracles, but published the morals of Christ.
Despite the general impression to the contrary, the First Amendment to the federal Constitution did NOT for all time fix religious freedom to America: it merely denied to Congress the right to establish religious worship, reserving this power to the States.And religious liberty. in several states has progressed no further than this definition; "ALL PERSONS PROFESSING THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION ARE EQUALLY ENTITLED TO THE PROTECTION OF THEIR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.".
Indeed equality of all Christians, before the law, was the4 highest ideal of the colonists, and it has continued so, even in those words,
Most of these laws are not know to even most legal minds,, and the mischief lies in the Capital made out of the statement by Coke, and as re enforced by Chancellor Kent for America, establishing precedents her which it will be hard to uproot, and a body of substantial law, difficult to se5t aside, wand worst of all, a public opinion not be changed at all, if the present zeal of bigots is to measure it.
Thanking Y O U, for your time, Questions? Comments John at bazenj@gmail.com
"Liberty Magazine", being a publication of The Seventh-day Adventist church, is in truth a Non-denomination magazine, considering all faiths to be due their liberty in religious freedoms, that do not harm others.
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