"A PRICE TO BE PAID" VIETH/ADTV. 'THE OXFORD MARTYRS' #941

MY many thanks to to Walter Veith PhD, and his crew at ADTV, the makers of this DVD. . www.amazingdiscoveries.org    This is a huge site, well worth the investigating time.

"A PRICE TO BE PAID."

      Hebrews 10:30  "For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people."

NOTE: Please remember, there is with Our Father, no hidden insult, lie, or wrong doing, all things secret shall be judged!

    Hebrews 10:38-39  "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul."

NOTE: If any person shrinks back from the truth/light of God, due to whatever reason, it shall be 7 times more problematic for them than before!

      Hebrews 12:25  "See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:"

   Let's go to St. Paul's Cathedral in London  England. It USED to be Anglican, but now it fully Roman Catholic, and has been RENOVATED inside and out, to a little smaller version of St. Peters in Rome itself! But even before the the renovations began, Veith took photographs of many of the Masonic and occultist symbols that had been installed years ago! One can Google under all three of these subjects and see for yourself!
[(JB) I asked why all this Satanic stuff, in a so-called Christian edifice?   {I guess this is not celebrating Christ now is it?}
  At his 2nd visit, there was this very long quay, and he wondered of the why? Asking questions to the "Gate-Keeper"  he found that it cost 10. pounds Sterling, or about 140 Rand [S. African dollers] and that's a lot of money for look see, right?  So when he then asked for this amount of money can I receive an Indulgence from the church, just as their Mother Church?  They were not amused!

NOTE: To the readers, who have read most of my posts, they may remember, a Dominican Monk named Tetzel, who was a contemporary of a Priest named Martin Luther, and Tetzel's pitching the selling of these indulgences, was the straw that broke Luther's Catholic faith.Tetzel's pitch, "Each coin drops into this box, is another souls flying up out of Purgatory and into heaven"
Of course what few knew, he'd get his share, the local authorities theirs, and bulk of it would go the the Rebuilding of the St. Peter's Cathedral, as the Vatican had run out of funds!

NOTE: This Little Horn Power is STILL today selling Indulgences, and for the same reasons plus this twist, if you wish to sin, you can buy and indulgence to gain the Church's forgiveness before the fact!
Can YOU find the equivalent in the Bible? NO!!

   IN 1887 H. GRATTAN GUINNESS WROTE:

    "Fifty years ago the eminent statesman  Sir Robert Peel said lt; with remarkably clear foresight:
     "The day is not distant, and it may be very near, when we shall, all have to fight the battle of the Reformation over again.  CONT:

Note: Today the time is far gone for people to stand up for the Principles of the Reformation, as 96% of all Protestants have seemingly run back as faithful, "DAUGHTERS" back to the MOTHER IN ROME

      Revelation 17:4-6  "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.  And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. "

Note: If YOU know history of Europe, you'll know this passage hit the Vatican right on its head!  And here's the WHY!

     2 Thessalonians 2:8-12  "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

     Matthew 7:15  "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

    2 Thessalonians 2:3  "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

CONT:  He continues: "That day has come. More that three centuries of emancipation, from the yoke of Rome-- Three hundred years of Bible Light and Liberty-- had made us over-confident, and led us to under-estimate the power and influence of the deadliest foe, not only of the gospel of God, but also Protestant England. Britain's honorable distinction of being the leading witness among nations for the truth of the Gospel and against the errors of Romanism had come to be lightly esteemed among us."
    "Our fathers won this distinction through years of some struggle and strife; they purchased it with their best blood, and prized it as men prize that which costs them dear. It has cost us nothing, we were born to it; we knew not its value by contrast as they did. In the early part of this century the power of Rome was in these lands a thing of the past. And it seemed to be decaying even in other lands. The notion grew up among the us that there was no need to fear any revival of that deadly upas tree, [ a member of the Mulberry tree, whose sap is extremely poisonous, from Java-- Something harmful and deadly.]  which is a blight of all that is great and good, pure and prosperous."

NOTE:  In 1798, on the pretext of a murdered French citizen, Napoleon invaded the Vatican, taking the Pope prisoner, and disbandment her powers a Sovereign Nation. This was reversed in 1929 by Gaspari and Benito Mussolini.. With this the Vatican again, became a Sovereign Nation ruled by its Emperors,  The Popes, who rules this 1o4 Acre territory as a King. Thus "Little Horn"! As horn is symbolic of power/Kings.

   Most of have some knowledge of about Scotland's Green-Brier Scottie, a Scotty dog whose master passed on and was buried in the Church grounds, and this dog spent the rest of many years, laying on its master's grave. Many people fed this dog over the years, but this church is known also for this plague, and what this membership stood for:

    "Halt Passenger, take heed what you see, This tomb doth shew for what men did die. Here lies interr'd the dust of those who stood Against perjury, resisting unto blood; Adhering to the covenants, and laws Establishing the same; which was the cause Their lives were sacrific'd unto the lust Of Prelates abjured. Though here their dust Lies mixed with murderers, and other crew, Whom justice did to death pursue:
  But as for them, no cause was found Worthy of death {the priests who killed them were not held for justice} but only they were found, Constant and steadfast zealous witnessing For the prerogatives of Christ their King. Which Truths were seal'd by famous Guthrie's head. And all along to Mr. Renwick's blood They did endure the wrath of enemies, Reproaches, torments, deaths and injuries, But yet they're those who came from such trouble, And now triumph in glory with the LAMB."
   "From May 27th, 1661 that the most noble Marquis of Argyle was beheaded, to 17th of February 1688 that Mr. James Renwick suffered; were one way or the other Murdered and Destroyed for the same cause,
 about Eighteen Thousand of whom were execute at Edinburgh, about an hundred Nobleman, Gentlemen, Ministers and Others; noble Martyrs for Jesus CHRIST. The most of them lie here."

   For particular account of the cause and manner of their suffering are the Cloud of Witnesses, Crookshank's and Defoe Histories.

This honors those who were murdered, because the accepted and believed in the Holy Bible!  Yet please know, that all over the world, where-ever Catholicism ruled, most of the memorials, and statues honoring the murdered martyrs of Protestantism, have been torn down, or vandalized to nearly unreadable conditions.  However know there's no SECRETS TO GOD!

So covering a period of these 27 years, where the English kings, all of whom died confessing their Catholic Faith, tried in vain to to kill the Protestant's movement! Following Rome's EDICT:  Believe as we say or die!"  Is this not the same M.O. if the Muslim Extremists,  today?

     Revelation 6:10  "And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?"

     WHAT reasons were there for all these murders? In a word . . . POWER . . . pure raw power, of one group of men over the other, and the same reason for this claim yet today....

From their own booklet of Catechism.....
Q:Which are the inherent Attributes of a Divine Church?
A: The inherent Attributes of a divine Church are four:     AUTHORITY, INFALLIBILITY, INDEFECTIBILITY AND NECESSITY.

Q: WHAT do these Attributes mean?
A: These Attributes mean that the true Church must:    (1)  be authorized to act in the name of God;
    (2) Be preserved by Him from error;     [is it with God's approval that millions were killed?] 
    (3) Last until the end of time;
    (4) Be the gate to heaven for all of good will. 

Biblically and historically only the number three above is correct! Yet upon what does this Little Horn Power rest upon?    Again on page 25.... John 20:21. in their won book.

    John 20:21  "Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you."

Note: The YOU here, are ALL those who accept Christ, as their Personal Savior, and Jesus told ALL such, to share His love with all others!  How much love is shown by their "BELIEVE AS I SAY OR DIE"?

    History speaks to many CLANDESTINE Protestant RULERS,,  in both England and Scotland, who upon their death-bed reverted back to Catholicism!
To which the Scots said: "NEVER, we have but one King Jesus Christ"! for this many 1,000's were put to death!  They spoke as, "We will not have a Pope, nor a King acting as a Pope, for we have a King in Jesus Christ!"

Note: OH! Wish that we were of the same mind!  As all the wars between England and Scotland,  during these times, were over the Supremacy of Christ, as King!

   Ecclesiastes 1:9  "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."

NOTE: In case any thinks this will not ever happen. . . again . . . please note the Bible is not ever in error!

Here's the Scottish Army's marching song as they marched into England under Earl of Leven, Alexander Lesley
    "When to the kirk [church] we come,
We'll purge it ilka [every] room,
Frae [free] Popish reliques, and all {such innovation,
That all the world may see,
There's nane [none] in the right but we,
Of the auld [old] Scottish nation.

1640 an army of 26,000 strong.

When they rounded up the Bible Believers, they put them all into the Church yard and locked iron gates, in the middle of winter. Many died from exposure, as the catholics were not choosy, they took all of all ages and sexes! What the cold and hunger did not kill, they burned at the stake in Edinburg.

The Movies such as "Braveheart" never touched the religious aspects, yet the wars, "Of the
ROSES" ,  "The 100 Year War,"  in our revised, {meaning cleaned-up}History of today never touch the fact it was people who rejected the Popish ideas of relics, of idol statues, of Rome's Traditions, being superior to the Holy Bible!  As it was then, and still is thus. . . TODAY!

    Note:  Today, we have our youths, who give us the middle finger, at the mere mention of Christianity, yet they are full afraid to do the same towards Islam, so they have fully forgotten the huge price in blood that was paid to remove us from Rome's yoke! Because all they have today is evolution's emptiness and hopelessness!

   However, what do we find, in this blood stained square, that has the Monument in the place where so many were burned alive?
   Well there are Tattoo parlors, Comic Book store sell all types of todays in fashion comics,  "DEAD HEAD COMICS" you take it from there!   Venus Fly Trap Tattoo,, many having Denimology tattoos available, and then there's "The Witchcraft shop,  all this stuff around this Memorial,  as IF SATAN was rubbing it in the fact that the Reformation is defeated and dead! Thus it it HIS Chosen Church that is the winner?  You must know Heaven will not allow that to stand! The END shall come!

    Daniel 2:45  "Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure."

Note: At that point in time, there shall be no more any man-made kingdoms on earth!

     1 Samuel 15:23 " For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king."

    NOTE: MAY I POSE THIS QUESTION: "What was it, that millions of people through all these Dark Ages, did not hesitate to surrender their lives, in FAITH in Christ Jesus, and today most think it was all for nothing?  DO YOU?

In 1637 a little Lady Jenny Geddes, created an "INCIDENT"  that lead to the creation of the National Covenant. . She threw a chair, as in those days there were no pews, so each carried a little "Stool" to sit on. This happened in St. Giles Church.  The "Clandestine "Protestant "  King, and he set to change the order of services in Scotland, to a more "Catholic Liturgy,"  and with the Catholic Prelates began to introduce the Mass, in Protestant Scotland!
   Not with Jenny there, she shouted "What do you think you are doing in my KIRK? And she threw her stool at them! All the rest of the those present did the same thing!  This is the very same "KIRK" [church] that John Knox pastored in!

   John Knox was placed before Merry Queen of the Scots, {no not "Bloody Mary"of England} telling him,
"Marie;;; 'Ye are not the Kirk that I will nourish, I will defend the Kirk of Rome for I think it is the true kirk of God."
John:   "Your will, Madfam, is no reason; neither doth your thought make that Roman Harlot to be the true and immaculate spouse of Jesus Christ."

Note: John Knox is standing and looking a a Queen that with one word, could have put him to death!

These people had spines, and they stood for what they believed on in faith which is but total trust! Today? Well we as a nation stand for all that is evil, in God's eyes! Yet we think of self as wize and cool, right?  Well so does Satan!

Today far too many, have their veins full of drugs, not knowing where they are going nor where they come from!

  Acts 5:29 "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."

   1 Peter 4:15-19 "But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator."

This is how John Knox spoke about this subject:

     "True it is that God hath commanded kings to be obeyed, but the like it is, that in things which they commit against His glory or when cruelly without cause they rage against their brethren, the members of christ's body, He hath commanded no obedience. Rather He hath approved, yea, and greatly rewarded such as have apposed themselves to their ungodly commandments and blind rage."


NOTE: Those reformers had a lot of "bark" on them, to speak such topics, that could have made kings send out a death warrants to them!

His l;ast words recorded was a prayer:  "And so I end. Rendering my troubled and sorrowful spirit in the hands of the Eternal God earnestly trusting as His good pleasure to be freed from the cares of this miserable life and to rest with Christ Jesus my only hope and life."

Note: These people ALL had the power FROM Jesus Christ, to be able to stand for His cause!


    Moreover Protestantism-- priceless as have been the benefits it has conferred on those who have joined its ranks--is yet very far from being the perfect recovery of Primitive Christianity. t has risen our of gross ignorance and superstition of Mediaeval Romanism; it has altogether abandoned the idolatry of image worship, virgin worship, saint worship, and the adoration of the priest-made wafer deity of the Latin Mass; it has recovered a purer faith and a simples ritual, and secured for the church a measure of liberty and independence; above all, it has circulated the Scriptures in the vulgar tongues of the nations of of Christendom, and has adopted as its motto "The Bible, The whole Bible and nothing but the Bible." but it has never completely purified itself from Romanist doctrines and practice. It has never regained complete independence of secular domination, it has never got clear of union with the world.  CONT:

Now before you begin to shout, I ask,  WHO transferred the solemnity of the the 7th day Sabbath to the first day of the week, but Rome?
  (1)  Do not most of Christendom follow her orders for Sun -day worship? Yes 96% do!
  (2) Do not 96% believe in the immortality of the human soul?
  (3) Do not 96% believe in the die and go to your reward instantly?
NOTE: Sorry but all three of the huge errors, are just not Biblical! Thus it's human Traditions only!

NOTE Just how deceived must one be to believe and accept, that a MAN-MADE WAFER, that is put into their mouths by the Priests, is the actual physical body of Jesus Christ? Yet if one rejects that notion Rome calls those heretics and will try to murder them! Then, and times yet to come!

CONT:  IT HAS REJECTED THE CLAIM OF THE CHURCH TO RULE THE STATE, it has not as clearly refused the pretension of the State, to rule the Church; it has suffered worldly ambition, priestcraft, simony, and abuses of many kinds; and it has developed two strong tendencies, one to return to the roman apostasy, and the other to rationalism and infidelity. The true Spiritual Church of Christ is still, even in Protestant lands, but a small part of the professing Church.
   I want you clearly to bear in mind from the outset then, first, that, in point of time, Protestantism is late or modern movement; secondly, that it is, in point of sphere, a limited one; and thirdly, that it is, in point of character, a very imperfect return to Primitive Christianity.
 H. Grattan Guinness, Romaism and the Reformation, from the Standpoint of Prophecy.

NOTE: Is this not "Spot-ON" in his description of Protestantism, yet this was some 125 years ago!

Note: SIMONY comes from Simon Magus who tried to buy the the gifts of God, and latter became advisor to the Roman Emperors, notably Nero!

    Acts 8:18-20  "And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money."

Note: Put this passage together with the Roman practice of paying money to remove dead loved ones fro Purgatory and into heaven!, or better still INDULGENCES MONIES OF TREASURES.


[AA 431,1] "All, who in that evil day would fearlessly serve God according to the dictates of their conscience, will need courage, firmness, and a knowledge of God and His Word; for those who are true to god, will be persecuted, their motives impugned, their best efforts misinterpreted, and their names cast evil. Satan will work with all his deceptive powers to influence the heart and confuse the understanding, to make evil appear good, and good evil. The stronger and purer the faith in God's people, and the firmer their determination to obey Him, the more fiercely will satan strive to stir up against them the rage of of those who, while claiming to be righteous, trample upon the law of God. I will require the firmest trust, the most heroic purpose, to hold fast the faith once delivered to the saints."

Note: ONLY those who have accepted christ in honest faith/trust, will have His strength to be able to stand against this evil.

Note: Make evil as good: does this not cover the so-called Mercy -Killings the MD assisted suicides? Or how about the 60 millions abortion we have preformed in the U.S alone? No wonder Social Security is going broke, we have destroyed the combined populations of all the Pacific coast states and few others included! That number is greater than the total population of France!

NOTE:   Of the 12 Disciples of Jesus, how many died a natural death?  ONLY ONE! John, and he was was cast into a vat of boiling oil, but God protected him, in order for him to be put on a prison island, Patmos, so that he could write the the last and FINAL Bible's Book "The Revelations of Jesus Christ."
Paul was beheaded, Peter was crucified upside down.
The huge amount of blood shed by satan and crew, will not ever be full known, nor appreciated until the saints menter Heaven!
    If you, DEAR READER, do think that the terrible dictators of history and present, are not acting on the orders of Satan, I pray that you will soon awake from the dream state you are in!

End of Part ONE!
Questions?   Comments?  John at www.servant@frontier.com.

What to learn more?
Visit your local Seventh day Adventist Church, any saturday/Sabbath at 9-10 AM. and be pleasantly surprised, by what the God has in store for you.

Other sites:  www.blbn.org    wwwamazingdiscoveries.org   www.amazingfacts.org   www.IRC.com

Many thanks for your time--John B.