Thursday, June 11, 2015

#936 Part 2. "The 4th Man in the Fire" W. Veith's amazingdiscoveries.org.

Again, my many thanks to PhD Veith and his crew for all this info. I know Satan has him in his cross-hairs, but God makes him miss each time! So Guess who's in ultimate control?


From http://www.msnbc.msn/id/11714990/ find this picture of Pope Benedict XVI speaking with members of the delegation from the U.S during an open-air general audience in St. Peter's Square on March 1  2006.

Pope Benedict XVI prays barefooted at the Blue Mosque. "Earlier this month Dec. 2006, during his visit to Istanbul  [AKA Constantinople] Benedict backed Turkey's admission into E.U., prayed towards Mecca in a mosque, and called Islam, "a religion of peace, tolerance, and love."

NOTE (jb) I fully agree, they just LOVE to control woman, behead anyone that leaves this faith, and kills all gays and transsexuals, all with love, for Allah!

 Can Y O U, dear reader, begin to see just how NON-Christian this movement called ecumenism truly is? In  other words, how can we take all the MAN_MADE faiths of of this earth, and call then all good and equal, when the ONLY STANDARD of truth we have is The Word of God the Holy Bible? Unless, of course,
Y O U think men do not ever speak lies!

NBC NEWS: Stephen Weeke NBC News Producer.   Rome---- The long reign of Pope John Paul II was marked by the dominant conflict of the age, the "Cold War," a 40 year nuclear standoff between the west and the Soviet Bloc. But that conflict ended in John Paul's own lifetime, and the world that Pope Benedict XVI inherited is engulfed in a different vortex of unpredictable violence, one that is sometimes characterized as a showdown between Christianity and Islam. Benedict, the former hard-line Cardinal Ratzinger, now has the formidable task of promoting religious tolerance in a volatile time of violence fuelled by Islamic extremism.

     Genesis 16:8-12  "And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai. And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude. And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.  And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."

Note: This with Ismael's seed, was the beginning of the Arab nation, and they have been at war just about ever since, among themselves and or their neighbors! Before the Crusades the Moors were within sight of Paris, France, and during Marin Luther's time the French king marched with 50,000 man army to tale Luther, but God intervened by sending the Ottoman army right to the gates of Vienna, so this king turned to meet them!  A historical truth. Again yours and YOURS alone is the choice, to chose to believe God or men!

    Who remembers the big stink about a Pope's letter, that caused riots in many a Islamic city?  The Imam's got together and wrote a few letters which got placed into the media, about some remark about the Crusades, that the Pope made! Yet all that began a dialogue "which is in fact, s vital necessity on which in a large measure our future depends," Benedict said.

   In his call for "reciprocity in all fields," including religious freedoms, Benedict was quoting his predecessor, John Paul II, who was known for his efforts to increase interfaith dialogue. Before the controversy surrounding Benedict's remarks erupted, that topic has been a plank of the Holy See's dialogue with some Muslim states such as Saudi Arabia, where non-Muslims cannot worship freely.

   Yes, it would be great to have peace between religions, but I ask "How, how can Christians compromise, the Word of God, within which is no compromise, we either obey or we reject, there is no middle ground!

    Hebrews 13:8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.   

   Saudi Arabia was not represented at that Monday's meeting. Leaders from many other Muslim nations were on hand. Among them: Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Lebanon, Sudan, and Turkey. Iraqi representative Albert Edward Ismail Yelda said the Pope's new gesture would be enough to put the issue at rest. "The Holy Father indicated a profound respect for Islam Ismail Yelda said in televised remarks after a 35 minute session with Benedict. "It is now the time to put what happened behind all of us, and to begin building a bridge between the two faiths." 

L'Osservatore Romano via AFP/Getty Images  and see the picture of all dressed in black while Benedict is in white with a scarlet jacket..

SO WHAT WAS THIS PAST FUROR ALL ABOUT?
     This came about when Benedict XVI sparked a world-wide protest by his quoting a 14th Century letter that said the Prophet Mohammed "Spread by the sword the faith he preached" and his teachings brought things, "evil and inhuman"

    Remember the Moors, by military conquest were in sight of the gates of Paris, and they were not on a vacation trip!  Truth at times can hurt!

WORLD RELIGIONS CONFERENCE. Organized by the AHADDIYYA MOVEMENT IN ISLAM

W.R.C. MISSION: "We affirm the value of interfaith interaction, for education ourselves regarding other faiths and philosophical traditions. The interfaith concept is a unifying vehicle, which can aid us in bringing the reformation of the world nearer to reality," 
   Their Official website shows a tree with many branches ending in the Crescent Moon and Star, at top center right is the Christian Cross and then the star of David.
Note: I ask again, yet again, what happens when we mix truth with error? Rome did this way back in the 321 A.D.  when she accepted a Pagan sun-god worship on Sundays, in place of the Biblical Sabbaths, plus many other pagan doctrines, of human souls are immortal, die and to to your reward and not the grave, infant baptist and baptism by sprinkling, priest forgiving sins, and.......

    Matthew 23:9  "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in                                heaven. "    

Question: Is this the Reformation the world is needing?  How can it help     anyone     when error is mixed in with a little truth?  Why not teach the whole Truth the whole Bible?
Yet they all tell us this will bring to earth peace.

   1 Thessalonians 5:3  "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

Note: Read Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 to learn about this destruction. I have oft spoken of error , but let those who translated the Qur;' aan, in it's own words..shall we?

Transliteration in Roman script by M. Abdul Hallem Ellyasee...and the English translation by Abdullah Yusef Ali (revised Edition) KUTUB KHANA ISHAYAT0ULO- ISLAM (REGD)
                         CHURISLALAN DELHI-10006 (INDIA)

5. END OF CHRIST IN THE BIBLE AND IN THE QUR'-AAN: But the Qur'-aan says ""Christ was altogether saved from the indignity of the cross and as if by a miracle of likeness, someone else of the same features was crucified by the Jews under illusion", says the Qur'-ann.:-

(VERSE 157)
"And they (Jews) said in boast, we killed Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, the apostle of god (in the knowledge of God). But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) Knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for a surety they killed him not. "

So I ask, yet again, how is compromise even thinkable, let alone be possible, of I Christ did not die we humans are indeed most hopeless and wallow in our sins! Yet the Christ, I KNOW,  died, to give all who are willing to obey, His salvation, For if the Qur'-aan is correct, Satan would have turned us against each other to the point of extinction, centuries ago! As this , by hurting us is the only way he can hurt Jesus!

(VERSE 158) "Nay,m God raised him up unto Himself, and God is Mighty, Wise.
(VERSE,159) "And there is none, of the People of the Book, but must believe in him? (Christ) before his death. And on the Day of Judgement he (Christ) will be witness. Vide 157-159:4.

While the Jews claim to have killed Christ on the Cross, it is also a Cardinal point of Faith to the Orthodox Christian Churches, that (A) Jesus Christ gave up his life on the Cross, the (B) he was buried after Crucifixion that (C) on the third day, he rose up bodily with his wounds fresh. That (D) he met his disciples and (F) was afterwards taken up bodily in heaven. In fact, this is the Belief which forms the basis of the theological doctrine of blood sacrifice and Vicarious Atonement for sins, which is however, losing its force with the Modern Age, an age of Action and Retribution.    P26.

   They are correct in that few still believe, as it has been recorded in the Word of God, even Bishop Desmond Tutu thinks this is a kind of stories of King Arthur and Knights of the round Table, each makes a lasting impression, but reality is far removed!

(#7) CHRIST----UZAIR---POLYTHEISM:--  God is indignant if Christ is believed to be God himself. 

( VIDE 19:5, 75-78:5.) To say nothing of the Godship, Christ is not even the son of God, but only an Apostle like several others. The same is the case with Uzair a prophet of the Jews. The priests have often been to source of trouble in Religion, to lead people astray, and to grow rich at other's expense. It is to be accepted that Islam is the Religion of Truth, and Muhammed is the Apostle of God, says the Qur'-ann  Vide 171:4,30 34:9, 27, 28:57, 113:5.

   Are Y O U beginning to understand and see why Mary is now "Queen of Heavens", and Co-Mediator with Christ, as per the Vatican? No other MAN_MADE religion has a Redeemer, such as we have in Christ Jesus, thus they need to remove Him from the ecumenical outreach for a One World faith, run by the Popes , of course!   Why can this be?

   Revelation 13:2-3 " And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of                            a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his                               seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his                            deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."

Note: If, as suggested, you have read the Book of Daniel, written some 500 years before Christ, you will have learned what these animals are symbolic of! Plus know that in 1798, Napoleon of France sent General Bertheir down to the Vatican, arresting the Pope, who dies 3 month latter in prison, removed all civil powers and all her lands from the church, thus a "Deadly Wound", but this began "Healing" i n 1929 when Mussolini returned to the Vatican 114 Acres, thus she became a nation again, today some 180 nations have an embassy within her territory and she had had an office and seat at the U.N since its conception!

QUESTION: Can Islam and Christianity truly sit at the same table of Doctrines?

Qur'-aan (S.5, V. 58) "They do blaspheme who say: God is christ the son of Mary. But said christ: "O children of Israel! Worship God, my Lord and your Lord."

(Surah.19, V.35) "It befitteth not (the Majesty) of god that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only Be! And it is!"

    One can see plain, that the God of Islam has NOT a son, but the God of the Bible does! So how can they both be the same One God?

H.M. [THE HOME MISSIONARY, September 1, 1892 par.4.

   "The Savior has said: and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him." He says again, "And this life is eternal, that they might know thee, the only true god, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent."
       "Mohammedanism"  has its converts, in many lands, and its advocates deny the divinity of Christ
[NOTE; as so do many other today] . Shall this faith be propagated, and the advocates of truth fail to manifest intense zeal to overthrow the error, and teach men of the preexistence of the ONLY
Savior of the world."?
    "Oh how we need men who will search and believe the Word of God, who will present Jesus to the world in His divine and human nature, declaring with power and in demonstration of the Spirit, that, "There is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved".   [Acts 4:10-12. John 14:6. and, 1 Timothy 2:5] "O how we need believers who will now present Christ in life and character, who will hold Him up before the world as th4e brightness of the Father's glory, proclaiming that God is love!"

    1 John 4:8  "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."
Note: but that's old fashioned religion, and is no longer suited to these modern times?
 QUESTION: Are now so jaded, to think that love and truth,and charity, have no place with us today? Then Father please take me now, for I no longer care for life, IF this today's, truth!

NOTE: Mohammed lived during the period of 570 A.D. to June 8th, 632, during this time he wrote this book, the Qur'-aan, thus born 540 years after Christ, yet there is much similarities between our Old Testament and their Holy Book. Yet even a most cursory reading of his life, will show, that it was by the sword, that he established this faith, even at the beginning he had to resort to his followers to rob caravans, in order to stay alive! Noting how Isis, today does the very same things and worse, what does that say about their God, Allah?  Does HE need the help of men, to force His brand of belief upon mankind?  No love there is there?

SPIEGAL SPECIAL:  [A National German Magazine] Had a cover depicting the Pope {the woman in purple and scarlet, Revelation 17]  holding the world globe in his right hand, and upon the top of the globe were from right to left Islam's Crescent Moon & Star, The Cross, and Muhammad's name in Sanskrit. 
Under the Title: THE POWER OF FAITH..How Religion Impacts Our World.

    Daniel 3:25  "He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they                              have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God."  KJV.[King James]
    Dan.3:35. "He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they                             have no hurt; and the aspect of the fourth is like the sons of the gods."  ASV [American Standard. Can you see, in the bold print,  how men have changed the word of God over time? Now Y O U know why I use the KJV! Yet it too has errors in translation, for Hebrew words that have no direct English counterpart. For example the word SOUL in Hebrew has 50 different meanings!

     Isaiah 7:14 " Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a                              son, and shall call his name Immanuel." [KJV]( Immanuel means God with us.)

     Isaiah 9:6  "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his                             shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The                                       everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Note: As the Word of God Himself, calls Christ the mighty God, who are we to argue the point?
           2 Timothy 3:16 " All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for                                                     reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

     Isaiah 9:7  "Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of                                   David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice                               from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."
I am sorry, but God does not make these statements about a mere mortal man,, or do Y O U think otherwise? Now how many thousands of men saying otherwise does take to negate God's word?

AS PAUL, THE ONLY HUMAN OF THE NEW TESTAMENT, WHO BEHELD CHRIST IN HIS POWER, he broke out into exclamations of admiration and amazement:

1 Timothy 3:16 " And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in                                 the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles,                                           believed on in the world, received up into glory."

Note: Who was manifested min the Flesh?  God was in the person of whom?       Jesus Christ! Thus Jesus was both God and man! Only God is able to accomplish this, agree?


Colossians 1:16-19 " For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,                                     visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities,                                   or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all                                 things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who                       is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the                         preeminence.  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;"

Consist:  sunistao [soon-is-tah'-o] Strong's 4921 To set together, to make, to hold together.in place.

Please remember the Natural Law.. all things, in motion, will degrade, over time into disorder, unless an outside force is used to maintain order. {Paraphrased]

Christ was using the great name of God, that was given to Moses to express the idea of eternal presence [ see Exodus 3:14] . Isaiah also saw Christ, and his prophetic words are full of significance. He says, "For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,, the mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." [Isa. 9:6] Speaking through him, the Lord says, "I am the Lord thy god, the Holy One of Israel, thy Savior....  fear not: for I am with thee... I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no Savior. Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God. Yea, before the day was  am he,....I am the Lord, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King {Isa 43:3-15] 

When Jesus was in the world He Himself proclaimed:
     John 14:6  "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but                          by me."
In Prophecy-- TMK--"than I May Know Him 12:4 we read "The Lord must be believed and served as the Great "I AM", and we must trust implicitly in Him."  As with no trust both Rome and Islam do and have used death as a threat to force belief. However, none can force love and obedience by force, and both of these powers have and so say "Believe as I say, or die!"  Yet this is in opposition to......

John 17:17  "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."

This reinforces this.....

     1 John 4:8  "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."

For as only in Christ, can anyone truly love another, even one who is very difficult to love! We can ONLY do so, by the powers of Christ within us/

            THE DEITY OF CHRIST JESUS.

    The following passages, Jesus is described by the Greek word for God---- THEOS  .   John 1:1-3; 1:18; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8; 2Pet.1:1; 1Jn. 5:20
Even in the Old Book Jesus was foretold as:



Isaiah 9:6-7 " For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon                  his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The                   be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it                with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of                       hosts will perform this."

Exodus 3:14-15  "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the                          children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus                           shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of                                      Abraham, the God of    Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name                        for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations."
Matthew 22:31-32  "But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken                                unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God                               of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."
Mark 14:61-62  "But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said                              unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall                              see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven."

THE GOSPEL OF JOHN RECORDS 7 MIRACLES AND 7 " i am" STATEMENT OF JESUS INCLUDING......

John 8:56-58 " Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then                             said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen                                             Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham                            was, I am."

      These miracles depict His OMNIPOTENCE [all powerful]
       His OMNIPRESENCE [present everywhere]
      His  OMNISCIENCE   [all knowing]
      His IMMUTABILITY  [unchangeable nature/character]
Let's face facts, either Jesus Christ IS all that He says He is, or He is not! However we have no record, in either actions nor words, to show He is not who He said He is! Only the words of those who believe not in Him! Thus human opinion and assumption, exactly like evolution, as no human was an eye-witness, and chemicals can not carry information, and DNA is information!Yet universally , all are taught evolution is fact!  Thus more lies of men!

    Revelation 21:8 " But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."  [Revelation 2:11;20:6,14.
   
Note:  How many Church going people have any clue what the Second Death is all about? Look with care at the next....

     Revelation 14:12-13  "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them."
     This covers both the living in the present, and those sleeping in the graves, and PLEASE remember nobody is as good as they think , nor are they to bad for God's forgiveness IF humbly asked and repented of all sins. Plus know, a burning forever in hell, is from Satan's mind, and even . . . he. . .shall burn the longest, yet, no longer that he's reduced to ashes, as will ALL who are there with him still clinging to their beloved sins. THAT, and THAT alone is the second death! This shall NOT BE, until 1,000 years AFTER Christ's return, and that Biblical, thus not human ideas.

If Y O U, dear reader, still question the Deity and the humanity of Jesus, please explain, to yourself, the how and the why of Matthew 8:5-10 where Jesus healed a servant, without being there?

    Matthew 8:5-10  "And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion,                                                beseeching him, And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy,                                     grievously tormented. And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him. The centurion                             answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed. For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel."

Please note: To me this would be the most horrific remark to fall upon my ears...[.in bold.]

    Matthew 7:20-23  "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

     The Gospel of John, more fully details the Divinity of Jesus, than others. The Book of Romans deals with doctrines of faith,While Daniel and Revelation MUST be taken as Daniel is but an "Overlay" for the other, to explain all the symbology of the latter. Both are considered apocalyptic foretellings.

      John 9:1-6 " And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples                          asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,"

Note Bold print: Dos does NOT Zap anyone for their sins, but know this sins do come with consequences, just look at all those hung up on substance abuse.

      John 9:7  "And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation,                                           Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing."
Please, read your Bible's John 9:7-41 with this verse in mind, are many not like the Pharisees, today?
     Genesis 2:7  "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils                               the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Note:   Think you that HE Who made Adam from the dust of the earth, was not able to take dust and His spittle, to heal this blind man? Note also became a living soul, thus a soul is a living being, and not something added on to one. Contrary to most teachings, man's soul in NOT eternal, only God is eternal.

TEXTS THAT CONFIRMS THE DIVINE NATURE OF JESUS CHRIST.

Being everlasting: Isaiah 9:6. John 1:1,2, Rev. 1:8; 22:13
Omnipresence:      Mat. 18:20: 28:20. Jn. 3:13
Omniscience   :     Jn. 2:24-25;21:17. rev. 2:23.
Omnipotence:     Isaiah 9:6. Phil. 3:21 rev. 1:8
Immutability:      Heb. 1:10-12; 13:8
  Colossians 2:9  "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily".

  Yet the Qur'-aan says He is not! So if Rome insists that all,. . .ALL. . .  religions are a path to heaven what does this tell you? If you compare all the newer so called Bibles, you'll soon see that they have attempted to eradicate Jesus from the word. In fact the NIV' version of Acts 8 they printed vrss 36 and left out 37 and printed 38 and numbered each as such!

   Acts 8:37  "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."  

    The WHY, of this removal is the reason for this series! A little truth mixed with much error, no longer is truth. and God is truth
       John 17:17 " Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."

    Colossians 1:13-19  "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us                           into the kingdom of his dear Son:  In whom we have redemption through his blood,                even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;"

Thus by their removal of Jesus are they not also removing The Father God? Whom they ALL profess to worship?
   
   Philippians 2:6 " Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

   Now let's go back into the time of Jesus as God and as a Man, did the Jews then understand Jesus as He spoke of Himself?   YES!  Look......

   John 10:29-33  "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out                         of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone                         him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which                of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee            not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

HOW MANY "DOUBTING THOMASES", ARE THERE TODAY?

    John 14:5-7  "Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the                          way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the                                Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from                             henceforth ye know him, and have seen him."

    John 14:8-9 " Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?"

     John 20:27-28  "Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach                                         hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And                                         Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

In (CC 328.6) Conflict and Courage, E.G. White, wrote: "Many who, like Thomas, wait for all cause of doubts to be removed, will never realize their desire. They gradually become confirmed in unbelief.... I pray dear dear, this is NOT Y O U !.

WHAT DID HIS FOLLOWERS DO THAT DAY OF RESURRECTION?

      John 20:19-24 " Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were                           shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the                               midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord. Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained. But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came."
       They met in a room, locked the doors and closed the windows, for fear of the Jews, they did not want to hang of a cross!  
       Yet, behold, here is Jesus who appeared within their midst! [Through locked doors?] Reread John 8 27-28 above and Thomas was then present.
   
     John 20:29-31 " Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed:                             blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. And many other signs                      truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But                 these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that             believing ye might have life through his name."

QUESTION: HOW MANY OF US, ARE AS THE DOUBTING THOMAS? He refused to believe, unless the saw and touched Jesus!


Note: If any remove the Deity from Christ, they are lost, for none in the flesh bodies, have life within themselves, for ALL have our next breath due to God's love, Mercy and grace! Being lost the Bible calls this Blotted out, meaning "never even existed", as God the Father will remove them from His memory, and after the final Judgement , within the Lake of fire, He'll also remove them all from our memories! How can it be otherwise? All those in heaven shall have loved ones blotted out, and have their memories with us for ever? NO, their memories are no longer within us!

   Revelation 21:4  "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. "

CHURCH LEADERS Did any Follow Jesus, before the Cross?    NO!

    Neither Joseph of Arimathea , nor Nicodemus had openly accepted the savior while He was living. They knew that such a step would exclude them from the Sanhedrin {Church government], and they hoped to protect Him by their influence in its councils.... Nicodemus, when he saw Jesus lifted up on the cross, remember His words spoken by night in the Mount of Olives:
   John 3:14-15  "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be                                 lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."
  Nicodemus was then able to connect the dots, from the words Jesus had spoken, both he and Joseph, spend their wealth to further the words of Christ, from then onwards,

[CC 327.4-5] "He felt that had lost much by not connecting himself with the savior during His time on earth. Now he recalled the events of Calvary, the prayer of Christ for His murderers and His answer to the petition of of the dying thief spoke to the heart of the learned councillor. Again he looked upon the savior in His agony; again he heard that last cry, "It is finished", spoken like the words of a conqueror. Again he beheld the reeling earth, the darkened heavens, the rent veil, the shivered rocks, and his faith was forever established. 5. The very event that destroyed the hopes of the disciples convinced Joseph and Nicodemus of the divinity of Jesus. their fears were overcome by the courage of a firm and unwavering faith."
 E,G. White a Lessor Light putting a Spot Light on the Greater Light, the Holy Bible!

    Ezekiel 33:31-33  "And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my                                            people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they                                    shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.[note: are most not there, today?]  And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.  And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them."

Do we not have a form of Godliness yet denying the power thereof? If all accepted this power then this ECUMENICAL Movement would be long dead and gone! We would ALL faiths, turn to the Holy Bible and away from Rome!

   For the ONLY personal experience anyone can have that is of any permanent value is a personal relationship the your Savior and mine Christ Jesus!

Question:  "How can Light/Truth, possibly have anything in common with darkness/Error? How can those who accept the Divinity of Christ, sit at the table of those who deny this? Yet 96% of Christianity obey Rome's law of Sunday worship, yet know not they worship the sun-god?
   Please do not let, nor allow this "Universal-soup-dom" of religions, steer you from the Word of God, as it is the ONLY AUTHORITY that men has been given!

NO MAN CAN IMPART TO ANOTHER THE CHARACTER WHICH IS THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT'S WORKINGS.

    Ezekiel 14:20 " Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it,[in the land] as I live, saith the Lord GOD,                        they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their                                    righteousness."

     Revelation 11:17  "Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to                                         come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned." KJV

    Revelation 11:17: " saying, We give thee thanks, O lord God, the Almighty, who art and who wast; because thou hast taken thy great power, and didst reign." ASV

NOTE: what happened to the words, "and art to come"  ?  does that mean those who put this American Standard version to the public DO NOT accept His Second Coming?

     Revelation 11:17. Saying, We give thanks to you Lord God Almighty, the One who is and the one who was, because you have taken your great power, and have begun to reign."  NIV.

Note: New International Version, removes Christ altogether!

     Revelation 16:5  "And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and                                     wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus."
The ASV removed "and shalt be" and God the Father is as "thou Holy One" again Christ is removed
The NIV, also removed, "and shalt be" thus neither tech that Jesus shall return, so what did they do to John 14:1-3????  "I will come again..."?

Perhaps these learned people should take hold of.....

    Revelation 3:18-19 " I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and                                     white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not                             appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I                                rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

    1 Peter 1:7 " That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it                be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:"

Note: God has allowed all to be tried, with tribulations, but the far worse is coming to us, as we we can see a very steady increase in humanity's woes, and we "ain't seen nothing yet!"
   
       1 Peter 1:8-9"  Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet                                  believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of                              your faith, even the salvation of your souls."

    
          2 Timothy 1:12  "For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I                          know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have                                committed unto him against that day."

Note: Worldly opinion being what it is, if you stand for Biblical Truth, the world will put it boot on your neck.


  •     We do not always consider that the sanctification we so earnestly desire and for which we pray so earnestly is brought about through the truth and, by the providence of God, in a manner we least expect. When we look for joy, behold there is sorrow. When we expect peace, we frequently have distrust and doubt because we find ourselves plunged into trails we cannot avoid. In these trails we are having the answers to our prayers. In order for us to be purified, the fire of affliction must kindle upon us, and our will must be brought into conformity to the will of God.In order to be conformed to the image of our savior we pass through the most painful process of refining. the very ones that we regard the most dear upon the earth, may cause is the greatest sorrow and trail. That may view us in the wrong light. They may think us in error, and that we are deceiving and degrading ourselves because we follow the dictates of enlightened conscience in seeking for the truth as for hid treasures, {D.G Daughters of God 230.5}


    Psalms 26:2-3  "Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart. For thy                                                   lovingkindness is before mine eyes: and I have walked in thy truth."
{AG. Amazing grace 330:2} The Lord is His providence brings men where He can test their moral powers and reveal their motives of action, that they may improve what is right in themselves and put away that which is wrong. God would have His servants become acquainted with the moral machinery of their own hearts. In order to bring this about, He often permits the fire of affliction to assail that that they may become purified.....

     Genesis 15:1  "After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not,                            Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward."
     Deuteronomy 31:6  "Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD                                thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee".
       Luke 12:7  "But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more                             value than many sparrows."
Note: Please remember The Father sent His Son Jesus to die for our sins! So each of us to Him have a great value, beyond treasure.

   Therefore I care not one whit, what others so-called "EXPERTS" of religion has to say, I'll stick to the Word of God. After all is said and done only safety and salvation is in God, and NOT in any man! For all that KNOWINGLY,  dismiss Jesus, and distort His word are the slaves of Satan!

   
     Titus 2:10-15 " Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine                                     of God our Saviour in all things. For the grace of God that bringeth salvation                                 hath appeared to all men,  Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;  Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee."

This passage has definitively linked grammatically the idea that Jesus the man, is also Jesus as God, within the Greek rules of grammar, they can not be separated! Called the genitive-genitive Xiasm construction, 
For it was HE, who was the FOURTH MAN in the fire, in Babylon as Daniel 3 expounded.

This is the final Battle of Satan's attempt to remove Jesus Christ from the minds and hearts of mankind, thus pray for the strength of Jesus, for you to be able to stand against the flood of lies from Satan's mouth!

Thanking Y O U for your time. Questions? Comments? John at servant@frontier.com

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